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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:06 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
quote:I just listened to him, and I actually kinda agree with his logic. When oregon lost to Arizona, most people said that is a bad loss and Oregon sucks, even though Arizona has only one loss. When an SEC team loses, it immediately goes to, damn the SEC is so deep and tough. I kinda get his point there
Haha but Oregon losing by 20 to Arizona at home is just a tough loss. His logic makes no sense.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:09 pm to lsupride87
Honestly, when one conference team beats another conference team, how does that better or worsen said conference?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:13 pm to East Coast Band
quote:i have no idea, but that was his main point in everything. When the best SEC team loses in conference, it immediately goes to "the SEC is so deep" When oregon or another top team in a conference loses it goes to "they were overrated" That is what the general masses do and i agree with him that makes no sense and is biased
Honestly, when one conference team beats another conference team, how does that better or worsen said conference?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:15 pm to East Coast Band
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Kannel also said Notre Dame would beat Alabama on a neutral site.
I wish there was a way to make this matchup happen and force Danny Kannell to bet his career on the game and see which team he picks. No way he really believes ND would beat Bama.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:16 pm to UMRealist
All of Kannell's arguments contradict every point he is trying to make. He asks who has Alabama beaten and says Notre Dame would beat them on a neutral field, but who has Notre Dame beaten for him to come to that conclusion?
Whatever fits his agenda. He'll hold one factor against an SEC school but not hold a non-SEC school to the same standard. It is really strange to listen to.
I'm honestly starting to believe that Kannell is ESPN's whipping boy. They let him go on segments and nearly every single time he is on, he is getting completely bashed before the segment even starts. Something similar to how SVP said "I don't like the Kannell that is on TV." Then the segment starts and usually results in the other person calling him out and him arguing his hilarious "The SEC is the best but they aren't as good as we prop them up to be" point. Then it ends in the host laughing and ending the segment.
Whatever fits his agenda. He'll hold one factor against an SEC school but not hold a non-SEC school to the same standard. It is really strange to listen to.
I'm honestly starting to believe that Kannell is ESPN's whipping boy. They let him go on segments and nearly every single time he is on, he is getting completely bashed before the segment even starts. Something similar to how SVP said "I don't like the Kannell that is on TV." Then the segment starts and usually results in the other person calling him out and him arguing his hilarious "The SEC is the best but they aren't as good as we prop them up to be" point. Then it ends in the host laughing and ending the segment.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:19 pm to Cisco Kidd
Russillo is probably my favorite guy at ESPN. Whether it is NFL, NBA or NCAAFB he is rarely wrong. Very bright mind. I hope he makes a radio ban bet with Danny on FSU vs. SEC in the playoff.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:20 pm to lsupride87
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I just listened to him, and I actually kinda agree with his logic. When oregon lost to Arizona, most people said that is a bad loss and Oregon sucks, even though Arizona has only one loss. When an SEC team loses, it immediately goes to, damn the SEC is so deep and tough. I kinda get his point there
I agree with him in principle but then he wants to have it both ways.
For example, he says LSU sucks because they only beat Florida by three, well Arizona only beat Texas San-Antonio by three. Doesn't that make Arizona suck? Which in turn doesn't that mean Oregon sucks? According to his logic at least...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
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When oregon lost to Arizona, most people said that is a bad loss and Oregon sucks
I watched Zona go to the wire with UT-San Antonio. It's a bad loss.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:23 pm to sportsfreak1989s
notre dame beat stanford their schedule isnt weak at all imo they play teams all over the country this yr including fsu, stanford, asu, usc, etc not bad
plus they were very impressive in that fsu game especially golson i dont think its crazy to say they could beat bama on a neutral field arkansas gave them all they could handle 2 weeks ago lol
plus they were very impressive in that fsu game especially golson i dont think its crazy to say they could beat bama on a neutral field arkansas gave them all they could handle 2 weeks ago lol
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:24 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
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Haha but Oregon losing by 20 to Arizona at home is just a tough loss. His logic makes no sense.
If OM loses it's because Tiger Stadium is easily the toughest football venue to play as a road team in America. Even though we should win, I'm still very nervous.
Where he is missing it imo is that while LSU is down this year due to youth/inexperience, they are still 10x more talented than Arizona. Inexperience will get you beat at times, but there are always games where the momentum will be such that it doesn't allow inexperience the chance to factor in.
Overall raw talent is where I think the edge goes to the SEC, especially when it comes to lower ranked teams (especially those like LSU that constantly have top 10 recruiting classes) losing to higher ranked teams.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:24 pm to RandySavage
quote:What he was trying to do is show how his logic works. He even said how Arizona might suck at the end of the year, but he hates how the initial response is different when the SEC loses and when another conference loses. He also said he thinks the SEC is the best conference.
I agree with him in principle but then he wants to have it both ways.
For example, he says LSU sucks because they only beat Florida by three, well Arizona only beat Texas San-Antonio by three. Doesn't that make Arizona suck? Which in turn doesn't that mean Oregon sucks? According to his logic at least...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:25 pm to EC Reb
quote:Ok, i watched bama go down to the wire with Arky so Ole Miss has zero good wins
I watched Zona go to the wire with UT-San Antonio. It's a bad loss.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:32 pm to lsupride87
he actually revealed his system during the interview.
he is intentionally treating the SEC how the rest of the pundits treat everyone but the SEC, and treating everyone but the SEC how the pundits treat the SEC.
the duplicity in his arguments is intended as a reveal of the duplicity in the other pundits.
he is intentionally treating the SEC how the rest of the pundits treat everyone but the SEC, and treating everyone but the SEC how the pundits treat the SEC.
the duplicity in his arguments is intended as a reveal of the duplicity in the other pundits.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:35 pm to BearBait09
quote:Yeh I know. That is what I was trying to tell people. I actually agree with his main point.
he actually revealed his system during the interview.
he is intentionally treating the SEC how the rest of the pundits treat everyone but the SEC, and treating everyone but the SEC how the pundits treat the SEC.
the duplicity in his arguments is intended as a reveal of the duplicity in the other pundits.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:36 pm to BearBait09
The thing is the SEC over many years has proven it's superiority out of conference and in the bowls, particularly the biggest ones. The respect has been well earned.
Does it go too far in some cases? Maybe. But overall it's pretty on point.
Does it go too far in some cases? Maybe. But overall it's pretty on point.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:41 pm to RandySavage
quote:And he admits the SEC is the best conference. If some people actually listened to Kanell, I think they might actually realize he isnt that nuts
The respect has been well earned.
Does it go too far in some cases? Maybe. But overall it's pretty on point.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:49 pm to RandySavage
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out of conference and in the bowls, particularly the biggest ones
it has proved itself in the national championship. The SEC has actually performed poorly in other bowls.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:51 pm to lsupride87
I definitely understand what he's trying to do, but he takes it overboard and that's why a lot of people don't take him seriously. I heard Russillo yesterday mentioned how Kanell just slammed the Bama victory of WVU as a team that was a complete joke, but now that they are a ranked team he won't give Bama credit.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:53 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:Well, as the Baylor guy mentioned, he goes overboard on the opposite side, to pseudo show his point
I definitely understand what he's trying to do, but he takes it overboard and that's why a lot of people don't take him seriously. I heard Russillo yesterday mentioned how Kanell just slammed the Bama victory of WVU as a team that was a complete joke, but now that they are a ranked team he won't give Bama credit.
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