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Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:41 pm to Masterag
Yes, thanks to this guy:
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:43 pm to Ishmael
He's throwing to a bunch of wide open guys against muppets. What part of those highlights makes you think he can do what is required of an SEC quarterback? That hitch in his delivery is why he was slow and inaccurate. Talented? Sure. He can throw it a long way. Broken before he got there? Absolutely. Unable to fix him? Yep. No shame in that though.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:48 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Guess the author didn't watch 77-0
Best moment of that game, it was 77-0 and Texas A&M got a sack (their only one of the game). Guy celebrated like he won the Super Bowl. It was hilarious.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:51 pm to therick711
Pretty sure that was Johnny Jolly, who has quite the illustrious history of off the field issues 
One of the OU players by him just pointed at the scoreboard IIRC
One of the OU players by him just pointed at the scoreboard IIRC
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:54 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Pretty sure that was Johnny Jolly, who has quite the illustrious history of off the field issues
One of the OU players by him just pointed at the scoreboard IIRC
That's exactly the play. He tapped him on the shoulder and pointed to the board. It was magnificent.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:55 pm to Masterag
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Only one other time have I been embarrassed of my football team, and I'm pretty sure y'all can guess when that was. As an athlete, I had some close friends on the football team back in my day. Consensus was that Fran didn't have any respect in the locker room.
I can't recall Saban, Miles, Richt, or any other elite coach's team giving up on him like they did on Sumlin. I have no reason to believe he isn't respected, but after the game on Saturday I can't help but think that might be the case.
Is there any way a coach can recover from this?
Practically our entire team gave up in 2012 after the ULM loss. Can't speak to whether a coach can recover because we were under a complete clown of an interim that everyone knew would be fired at the end of the season the minute he was hired.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:59 pm to Feral
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Can't speak to whether a coach can recover because we were under a complete clown of an interim that everyone knew would be fired at the end of the season the minute he was hired.
I will never get why Long did this. I get it was a tough situation but at least give it to some young hotshot assistant on staff who is hungry with something prove, and would put max effort into pulling in a nice class. I think that move set y'all's rebuild back even further
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:00 pm to Masterag
2012 A&M game. Man that was a pitiful effort.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:46 pm to Feral
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Practically our entire team gave up in 2012 after the ULM loss. Can't speak to whether a coach can recover because we were under a complete clown of an interim that everyone knew would be fired at the end of the season the minute he was hired.
I still remember the "it doesn't matter, we still have Paul Petrino" responses like it was yesterday. JohnEl and the getting the piss warm. It was an exciting time.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:54 pm to Masterag
There is a long tradition of quitting in south Texas. The Alamo, the Houston Oilers, the Astros, and now A&M. Something in the water down there.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:55 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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the Houston Oilers
Take it back
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:56 pm to Masterag
Ha yeah, Houston Nutt coached us for four years. We gave up early and often.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I was a big Bum Phillips and Earl Campbell fan, however. 
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:58 pm to therick711
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Saban's teams are the biggest front-runners going. Look at his 2007 campaign (lost four straight to conclude the season). Thankfully, he avoids it for the most part. The problem with the lofty projections though is he gets got by the Utahs and Big Game Bobs of the world when his teams aren't near the top of the mountain.
Read through this trying to find anything at all about a Saban team at Bama giving up.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:04 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I will never get why Long did this. I get it was a tough situation but at least give it to some young hotshot assistant on staff who is hungry with something prove, and would put max effort into pulling in a nice class.
Yeah, Long has been a great AD, but Johnelle was definitely the black eye of his tenure. Every good AD has that one ultraderp -- Broyles broke program precedent and hired Jack Crowe, Foley at UF hired Zook and Muschamp -- and that was Long's.
The thing about that situation was that one of Petrino's many weaknesses is that he simply couldn't hire even decent assistants, so there really weren't any good options, and anyone promoted would have been vying and politicking for the long term job. He thought that John L would be a good move because he had been a Petrino staff member and had head coaching experience in a P5 conference -- he had his doubters, but no one knew he would be the trainwreck he turned out to be. Hindsight is 20/20.
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I think that move set y'all's rebuild back even further
Nah, that's always the fan overreaction. Petrino going over the handlebars threw back the curtain on how badly he'd mismanaged the program, the roster, and our coaching staff. His terrible recruiting from 2010 to 2012 put us in the hole we're in, and Bert was able to come in and actually piece together a very nice first recruiting class after he was hired.
Petrino left us with no offensive linemen, no receivers, no tight end, no special teams contributors on deck, and nobody in the back seven on defense (seriously, we started two walk on seniors and a true freshman at linebacker last year). His parting gifts were a few good defensive linemen, Jonathan Williams and Brandon Allen (thanks!). Last year, we started a first time QB, a true freshman tailback, two true freshmen OL, a true freshman TE, a freshman DL, the aforementioned linebackers, and a bunch of freshmen and JUCOs in the secondary. We didn't go 0-8 because Bert all of a sudden forgot how to coach football.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:08 pm to IAmReality
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The Shula poisoned seniors quit on Saban mid-way through the 2007 season.
Alabama didn't lose a game by more than 7 points all year...including the four games lost while the Textbook 5 were sitting. They were down 14 to LSU in the 2nd quarter and came back and took the lead. As the other poster indicated, Alabama needed the DJ Hall & Keith Brown crew to graduate...they never bought in to Saban to begin with...but the team certainly never quit.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The Shula poisoned seniors quit on Saban mid-way through the 2007 season.
Alabama didn't lose a game by more than 7 points all year...including the four games lost while the Textbook 5 were sitting. They were down 14 to LSU in the 2nd quarter and came back and took the lead. As the other poster indicated, Alabama needed the DJ Hall & Keith Brown crew to graduate...they never bought in to Saban to begin with...but the team certainly never quit.
yep ... that's one of the better coaching jobs saban's done over the years ...
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:18 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
2011 was the most painful year of football I've ever experienced. The Orgeron teams at least seemed to fight a little bit. Watching Zach Stoudt take a huge shite on the field in person at Vandy is probably the most embarrassed I've ever been at a sporting event ever.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:18 pm to Masterag
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I have no reason to believe he isn't respected, but after the game on Saturday I can't help but think that might be the case.
Is there any way a coach can recover from this?
Maybe with the way he and JFF were he doesn't deserve the respect of his team?
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