Someone made an interesting point on Texags...

Coincidentally (or maybe not) the only other year as a HC he hasnt had a record setting QB.

It blows, but Im finding it harder and harder to ignore that narrative.

Well Stoops did lose something like 55-10 in the Orange Bowl, but that was to probably the second or third greatest team in CFB history. He also had that nasty loss to KSU in the Big XII title game.

Meyers worst loss ever though was only 28 I think, and Sabans worse was in the 30s.

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Personally, I think there's a problem much deeper than scheme. I'm beginning to question the culture that our HC has established

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Meh, we were all fine with the culture when we were winning. Sometimes it really is as simple as the scheme isn't working and needs to be scrapped and started from scratch.

Good teams win. Period. Culture really has little to do with it.

I will say that this team lacks player-leadership, though. We don't have those firebrands who're stepping up and refusing to go down without a fight.

OK. Until I see some proof of this, I'm just going to think its a rumor started by someone disgruntled and backed up by users who wanted to be seen as "in the know" on that other site.

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The fact that Hill was at Chimys, wasted on Thursday night is a culture issue, IMO. I just don't see a program being successful in the long run when that's acceptable

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Johnny was caught with a fake ID and was partying in a Scooby-Do outfit with scantily-clad co-eds before the '12 State game, but he got a pass and folks laughed it off because he was winning. Because he was good enough.

Pontificate about culture till the cows come home, but I think that juxtaposition speaks volumes. Folks want a drill sergeant when the swashbuckling, devil-may-care attitude doesn't get wins. Folks want a player's coach when the hard-arse attitude does more harm than good.

Culture is a nebulous thing. Wins are concrete. Any culture can be put on a pedestal or torn down when held up to the record at the end of a year. As such, I think focusing on the culture is beside the point--we need to figure out why this staff, which was nails in 2012 and much of 2013, has suddenly turned incompetent. If we can find the answer to that and start winning consistently, no one will give a damn if the entire O-line is wasted two days before a game.

Just my opinion, though.

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I'm afraid a lot of the confidence we had in the staff was created by JFF

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I can definitely agree with that. The stat that the CBS announcers kept bringing up was how we have failed to suitably replace the percentage of rushing yards for which JFF accounted. The staff put little emphasis on developing a rushing attack (despite our embarrassment of riches in terms of talent at RB), and of course Kenny Hill is nowhere near the scramble threat that Manziel was. That makes defending our offense so much more elementary it's not even funny.

JFF definitely covered up some glaring holes in our scheme, and instead of working diligently to fix said holes while he was still here, it appears we just let the status quo ride, and now we've been exposed. That's deplorable.

Stick your head as deep in the sand as you can and you won't see any cultural problems. Keep chugging that koolaid and enjoying those down low ghetto fabulous uniforms.

I think you're getting into semantics -describing a cultural problem while refusing to call it a cultural problem.

I've defended Summy, Johny, et al ad nauseam. But I'm running out of excuses.

Of everything, our seemingly inability/refusal to make adjustments over the last 3 weeks baffles me more than anything. It has been the same song and dance