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re: Going forward

Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Porkmeister
Conway, Ar
Member since Jul 2009
63 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:21 am to
I heard that Fayetteville always nixed every UALR attempt at starting a football program. The UA didn't want to draw resources away from the flagship. Once all the games are moved I could see that idea coming back. They could have a decent sun belt type program.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

I heard that Fayetteville always nixed every UALR attempt at starting a football program. The UA didn't want to draw resources away from the flagship.


stAte makes similar claims about their program and school.

If it were true, UAPB wouldn't have a football team, UAFS wouldn't have moved up to DII athletics.
Posted by Porkmeister
Conway, Ar
Member since Jul 2009
63 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:47 am to
There is a big difference. UA depended on Little Rock money. That isn't true anymore but it in the past yes they did.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:53 am to
UALR being a commuter school has more to do with them not having football than anything else.

Same reason why UAFS has not added a football program, commuter school.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27317 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:05 am to
Lot of money in South and Central Arkansas that pay to offset any financial losses. Many threaten to pull the money if the game is moved. Would they? Or is it even enough to matter? I have no clue. People talk big shite, but without numbers, it's just talk. Are a lot of Doctors that see WMS as our home stadium. Some of us would pull support. Andy yes, the atmosphere at WMS for tailgating is >>>>>Fayetteville. But the DWR is fricking centuries ahead of WMS. WMS is a nasty motherfricker. Who wants to stand there taking a piss in a trough while some unknown fluid drips on you?
Posted by Porkmeister
Conway, Ar
Member since Jul 2009
63 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:08 am to
That has a lot to do with it but a lot of the smaller schools are or were commuter schools. I don't particualy want UALR to have football. UCA is my other football school.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:10 am to
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that see WMS as our home stadium


By that logic, South Georgians must see Jacksonville as UGA's "home stadium".

If you paid rent to live "at home", and the land lord gladly took you rent year after year but never fixed the issues with the place and let the conditions continually deteriorate, they would be called a slumlord.

But Arkansas is suppose to thank WMS for this and for taking their money.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 11:39 am to
War Memorial is no longer as much of a home field advantage as Fayetteville. This year that doesn't matter as it will in the future. Important games need to be on The Hill.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:01 pm to
And maybe we should hold off on the stadium expansion in Fayetteville until we are reasonably assured we will be a 9/10 win team again.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12342 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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And maybe we should hold off on the stadium expansion in Fayetteville until we are reasonably assured we will be a 9/10 win team again.


I'm not opposed to that -- my only problem with RRS is that I hate the horseshoe design. I wish when they'd renovated in 2001 that they'd taken the upper deck off of one or both of the East and West sides and enclosed both end zones to make it a true bowl initially. I hate looking up in the upper deck and seeing a ton of empty seats in the corners as much as I hate seeing the roof of the Broyles Center.

I like Oklahoma State's design where its mostly a bowl with luxury boxes lining top of the stadium, though theirs is also a horseshoe. I wish we'd have used that concept during the 2001/2002 expansion.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 1:41 pm to
Boone Pickens does have some nice sight lines, but it also has walls dangerously close to the field and Gallagher-Iba acts as a huge sound barrier on the East side. It'll be lucky to hold close to 60K when it's at it's uptmost maximum.

I don't see us having the fan support to justify an 85K seat stadium, but we've got to do something about the aesthetics of the shitty Broyles center.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12342 posts
Posted on 10/19/14 at 3:06 pm to
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I don't see us having the fan support to justify an 85K seat stadium, but we've got to do something about the aesthetics of the shitty Broyles Center


Agreed.

I think a ~75k stadium capacity is perfect for our fan base with the proper logistics. I'm all in favor of building club/box seating over the Broyles Center as long as we account for it by reducing capacity elsewhere (upper deck in SEZ, west and east sides.

If we did that, we maintain capacity level, add revenue-generating seats that are currently in demand by ticket holders, and get rid of areas that often are empty in non-sellouts and non-marquee games.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 3:13 pm
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