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re: Why don't we play Rafe?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:51 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:51 pm to TheCheshireHog
Exactly.
Sure as hell not burning his redshirt at this point in a lost season.
Sure as hell not burning his redshirt at this point in a lost season.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:03 pm to UltimateHog
Question:
If we go 4-8 or 5-7 this year with BA as our starter what did it accomplish?
At this point, I think we need to get someone else some experience and look to the future.
If we go 4-8 or 5-7 this year with BA as our starter what did it accomplish?
At this point, I think we need to get someone else some experience and look to the future.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:10 pm to theenemy
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This is his 3rd year in the college ranks....he is what he is at this point.
his growth has been stunted from the beginning.
his first year he was screwed over by the petrino brothers
2nd year was baptism by fire into the conference with a new system
while this year he's slightly better than his below average performance last year. I'd say he's been above average so far this year.
bet he wishes he was in rafe's shoes and got to redshirt his freshman year while being brought along and learning the system. makes one wonder how much better BA would of turned out if given that chance
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:13 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
Completion % is up 10% from last year and his TD/INT stats are much improved. He still gets insanely rattled at times and has a tough time settling down once he is. I would say he's above average at the moment and still has a chance to improve. I don't think we'd be any better off, and probably worse, with either of the backups.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:15 pm to theenemy
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If we go 4-8 or 5-7 this year with BA as our starter what did it accomplish?
preparing for BA's senior season
look at how much he's improved from last year to this year, can only imagine how much more improved he'll be next year. 2015 should be the payoff year for these past two years of developing him and giving him game experience.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:19 pm to TheCheshireHog
I think he has reached his ceiling and though we might not be better off now I think we would be better off in the future to get Austin and Rafe experience.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:24 pm to TheCheshireHog
Last year, he had a tendency to:
1) Throw high
2) Struggle with stretching the field vertical
3) Getting rattled
The difference is the O-line is doing a better job moving the ball on the ground.
He has made improvements but he still is at best SEC Back-up caliber.
1) Throw high
2) Struggle with stretching the field vertical
3) Getting rattled
The difference is the O-line is doing a better job moving the ball on the ground.
He has made improvements but he still is at best SEC Back-up caliber.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:26 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
I'm not as forgiving, but I see what you are saying. A decent percentage of his incompletions are because he is throwing the ball away. I think on some of those he could have found a man. Other times, he just misses open receivers and throws to the wrong guy.
Eta: really, I think he is scared as shite out there and doesn't want to get hurt.
Eta: really, I think he is scared as shite out there and doesn't want to get hurt.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:29 pm to RunningBlake
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I'm not sure about Chaney either, but that's just because of of BA. If he had a decent QB, it could definitely be different.
He's had a decent QB, WRs, Oline, and RB and Tennessee fricking sucked.
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I can't think of another SEC school where BA would start.
Florida, Vandy, and possibly Carolina.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:33 pm to DaleDenton
TN didn't have a defense either.
He would not start at SCe.
He would not start at SCe.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:35 pm to DaleDenton
SEC Defensive Coordinators do not have any fear that Allen can make the throws to beat them. They will sell out to stop the run and blitz the hell out of us knowing that Allen can't make the plays.
Georgia said frick it after one possession and came after us.
It wasn't until they were five Tds ahead before they called off the dogs.
Georgia said frick it after one possession and came after us.
It wasn't until they were five Tds ahead before they called off the dogs.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:40 pm to theenemy
the only real problem I have with BA is that he
gets scared shitless in the pocket. He's not an NFL QB i don't need him to be perfect. I dont need himt o make every throw. I don't need a 70% completion percentaage.
there was a play in the 3rd quarter where they showed a replay of BA and he looked and saw it was a blitz and you can see it on his face OMG OMG OMG OMG lol and they show the routes going and BA basically is looking at the blitzers the entire time and Hatcher was in the middle of the field planting a christmas tree he was so wide open lol.
the book is out on BA. Put 8 in the box, pressure / blitz BA and he can't beat you and the hogs can't run.
at least,, throwing in a new qb gives people something else to game plan for. I could put together a fricking game plan for BA lol. Blitz off the edge make him go to his left, throw some exotic looks at him to scare the shite out of him lol. Take the rest of the week off and watch porn lol
gets scared shitless in the pocket. He's not an NFL QB i don't need him to be perfect. I dont need himt o make every throw. I don't need a 70% completion percentaage.
there was a play in the 3rd quarter where they showed a replay of BA and he looked and saw it was a blitz and you can see it on his face OMG OMG OMG OMG lol and they show the routes going and BA basically is looking at the blitzers the entire time and Hatcher was in the middle of the field planting a christmas tree he was so wide open lol.
the book is out on BA. Put 8 in the box, pressure / blitz BA and he can't beat you and the hogs can't run.
at least,, throwing in a new qb gives people something else to game plan for. I could put together a fricking game plan for BA lol. Blitz off the edge make him go to his left, throw some exotic looks at him to scare the shite out of him lol. Take the rest of the week off and watch porn lol
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:41 pm to RunningBlake
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TN didn't have a defense either.
What does TN's defense have to do with the offense sucking balls with NFL prospects at QB, WR, Oline, and RB under Chaney?
Chaney's Paultard play calling made that offense look special needs.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:43 pm to vengeanceofrain
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Take the rest of the week off and watch porn lol
I'm not gonna lie, this made me laugh irl.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:48 pm to vengeanceofrain
Agree 100%
Two other things that drive me crazy about him.
Even when not pressured he has a tendency to throw 10 feet high to receivers.
Secondly, he has a tendency to throw a flat trajectory on underthrown fade routes. Too many times, the ball isn't even above the defenders head and the receiver can't even get to the ball because it is shielded by the defender.
Two other things that drive me crazy about him.
Even when not pressured he has a tendency to throw 10 feet high to receivers.
Secondly, he has a tendency to throw a flat trajectory on underthrown fade routes. Too many times, the ball isn't even above the defenders head and the receiver can't even get to the ball because it is shielded by the defender.
This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:51 pm to DaleDenton
If I remember correctly, the TN offense put up a decent average in ppg. I have not researched that.
My point with you though is that it would not matter who is OC. Brandon Allen sucks and I think he would be behind Treon Harris at FL.
My point with you though is that it would not matter who is OC. Brandon Allen sucks and I think he would be behind Treon Harris at FL.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:51 pm to DaleDenton
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He's had a decent QB, WRs, Oline, and RB and Tennessee fricking sucked.
yea just took a look at where tennessee's total offense was ranked 2009-2012. not good
2009 - 52
2010 - 68
2011 - 107
2012 - 35
I was under the impression the tennessee offense was the only thing good about their team...
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:52 pm to theenemy
but see i can live with that. you understand he's not a top tier SEC QB he's a game manager,k you live with that. He's not tyler wilson / mallett. Okay. But even vandy's QB will look at a blitz and not shite his pants lol
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:54 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
No. Tennessee's offense was only good in '12 when they had Cordarelle Patterson. I don't think many of their fans were sad to see Chaney gone. Exactly why I didn't want him at the time.
We really need someone that has had success in the passing game with this type of offense. Bielema's idea of meshing a spread offense with a power offense has just been an awkward marriage from day one.
We really need someone that has had success in the passing game with this type of offense. Bielema's idea of meshing a spread offense with a power offense has just been an awkward marriage from day one.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 11:54 pm to theenemy
BA has problems doing some things well, like all QBs, does other things well, like all QBs.
Instead of run lame as fake tosses where he is blind to a possible blitz from the corner after the fake, instead of asking him to uncle Rico the fricking ball over a mountain to a WR 90 yards away in the endzone, if only Grimace's brother would call plays that allows BA to do the things he can instead of asking him to do the things he is worst at.
Last I checked, it is still allowed to run slants, crossing routes, move the pocket, run boot legs, etc. Picking up 5 yards at a time is better than trying for 45 and then needing 37 just to pick up a first down two plays later...
Instead of run lame as fake tosses where he is blind to a possible blitz from the corner after the fake, instead of asking him to uncle Rico the fricking ball over a mountain to a WR 90 yards away in the endzone, if only Grimace's brother would call plays that allows BA to do the things he can instead of asking him to do the things he is worst at.
Last I checked, it is still allowed to run slants, crossing routes, move the pocket, run boot legs, etc. Picking up 5 yards at a time is better than trying for 45 and then needing 37 just to pick up a first down two plays later...
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