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Did Gurley get paid by more than one dealer to sign memorabilia?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:16 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:16 am
It seems like the guy that turned in Gurley was mad at him for something. What on earth could a profiteer be mad at if Gurley provided some inventory for him?
From reading the GA board, it seems that one motive is that "possibly" Gurley signed stuff for other dealers.
If that's true, could he have been paid for that work too? Surely he wouldn't do it free for one dealer and not for the other, would he? He doesn't seem like a dumb kid to me.
This is either going to go one of two ways in my humble opinion.
1) the dealer that turned him in fails to show the money trail and Gurley comes back after 2 or 3 games
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2) possibly a longer investigation into other dealers that have signed memorabilia and this takes forever
This sucks for Gurley and UG. I still don't understand why football players just don't get it. Stay in school, do your time and go get your NFL check. Eat fish sticks and drink cheap beer in college if you don't have loads of money to spend. Hell, that's what I did.
From reading the GA board, it seems that one motive is that "possibly" Gurley signed stuff for other dealers.
If that's true, could he have been paid for that work too? Surely he wouldn't do it free for one dealer and not for the other, would he? He doesn't seem like a dumb kid to me.
This is either going to go one of two ways in my humble opinion.
1) the dealer that turned him in fails to show the money trail and Gurley comes back after 2 or 3 games
or
2) possibly a longer investigation into other dealers that have signed memorabilia and this takes forever
This sucks for Gurley and UG. I still don't understand why football players just don't get it. Stay in school, do your time and go get your NFL check. Eat fish sticks and drink cheap beer in college if you don't have loads of money to spend. Hell, that's what I did.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 8:18 am
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:21 am to roadGator
My guess is after they see the backlash against the snitch, the other dealers won't even begin to cooperate with the NCAA investigation.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:21 am to roadGator
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It seems like the guy that turned in Gurley was mad at him for something.
He's mad because he thought he was the exclusive person getting gurley autographs. Gurley eventually started signing for other people too, which essentially flooded the market and devalued the original dude's merchandise.
So he got pissy and now ruined hundreds of thousands of lives over a few hundred bucks. Hope he's happy.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:23 am to WG_Dawg
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So he got pissy and now ruined hundreds of thousands of lives over a few hundred bucks. Hope he's happy.
What?!?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:23 am to Crowknowsbest
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My guess is after they see the backlash against the snitch
What backlash?
Maybe there was an agreement to only sign for this cat and Gurley broke the deal. I don't know. Just trying to figure out why he would turn Gurley in.
If Gurley signed for others do you figure he did it for free? I'm not saying he did or didn't but it would be weird to not charge the others.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:23 am to roadGator
A couple of things
1 - the popular rumor is that the main dealer was/is a UF fan - look for that tidbit to ramp up the vitriol leading into the WLOCP
2 - what i am hearing is that TG was under pressure from his mother. Again, rumor, but he grew up dirt poor and I am hearing that mamma was asking for help keeping food on the table abd to do other stupid shite, like keep the lights and water on
The thing that gripes my arse more than anything else is the 1/2 game suspension of Manziel, who had plenty of family money.
The ONLY thing that would make all of this right in my mind would be if TG winds up getting a 1/2 game suspension against Charleston Southern
I am very disappointed in UGA for not backing TG IF it is true that he is denying this
1 - the popular rumor is that the main dealer was/is a UF fan - look for that tidbit to ramp up the vitriol leading into the WLOCP
2 - what i am hearing is that TG was under pressure from his mother. Again, rumor, but he grew up dirt poor and I am hearing that mamma was asking for help keeping food on the table abd to do other stupid shite, like keep the lights and water on
The thing that gripes my arse more than anything else is the 1/2 game suspension of Manziel, who had plenty of family money.
The ONLY thing that would make all of this right in my mind would be if TG winds up getting a 1/2 game suspension against Charleston Southern
I am very disappointed in UGA for not backing TG IF it is true that he is denying this
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:23 am to WG_Dawg
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ruined hundreds of thousands of lives
What?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:24 am to dcbl
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The ONLY thing that would make all of this right in my mind would be if TG winds up getting a 1/2 game suspension against Charleston Southern
there is a less than 0 percent chance of that happening.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:25 am to WG_Dawg
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ruined hundreds of thousands of lives
You serious,?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:25 am to WG_Dawg
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The ONLY thing that would make all of this right in my mind would be if TG winds up getting a 1/2 game suspension against Charleston Southern
there is a less than 0 percent chance of that happening.
oh I know
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:27 am to dcbl
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the popular rumor is that the main dealer was/is a UF fan - look for that tidbit to ramp up the vitriol leading into the WLOCP
Even if true, why should I be subjected to any vitriol because of one fan when TG is ultimately to blame. If he did it, why is it the dealers fault?
If he did it, it's TGs fault and the vitriol should be directed at him for breaking the rules and UG fans' heart.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:29 am to roadGator
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fails to show the money trail
We aren't talking big amounts of money either way. Doubt there is a money trail over $400 dollars. Even a few thousand dollars.
Surely Gurley was smart enough to do everything by cash. Even if he didn't use a middleman to get the cash, there isn't really going to be a provable money trail unless the money is big.
It's not like this is some kind of global transaction with international banks.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:29 am to dcbl
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The thing that gripes my arse more than anything else is the 1/2 game suspension of Manziel,
Shouldnt use the 1/2 game as precedent at this point
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:30 am to roadGator
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Even if true, why should I be subjected to any vitriol because of one fan when TG is ultimately to blame.
Why should skinny white boys that thought it would be cute to steal a car for a joy ride be subjected to rape in our prisons?
Stupid redneck sidewalk fans are gonna behave like stupid redneck sidewalk fans
We may not have anybody that will come poison trees or try to kill your alligator mascot; but I suspect that there will be a heightened level of animosity from the bad part of the UGA fanbase towards gator fans
Do you really disagree with that?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:31 am to NYCAuburn
Agreed. But we know it will be more 
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:31 am to roadGator
From my understanding and reading both Reddit AMA's which the OP is highly likely to be the same person that turned Gurley in, Gurley pissed him off by going to other dealers too. Accuser didn't like Gurley flooding the market with more autographed items or Gurley wanted too much money for the autographs, or both.
In his first AMA, OP talks about how stupid the Johnny Football dealer was for turning in evidence and subsequently being blacklisted by all other dealers and college players. OP says he would never turn someone in because that's bad business.
Next AMA admits he is mad that Gurley is becoming greedy and unloyal. He states ESPN has found out that Gurley is signing autographs for money and is asking everyone they can if true or not. Seeing the Gurley autograph business is about to be shutdown and already flooded, he uses this "evidence" of Gurley signing autographs. This video and pictures allegedly show a black male with dreads in a car, but you can't ID that person as being Gurley and there is no proof of money being exchanged. He is now shopping the video and pictures to get as much money as he can before another dealer does.
In his first AMA, OP talks about how stupid the Johnny Football dealer was for turning in evidence and subsequently being blacklisted by all other dealers and college players. OP says he would never turn someone in because that's bad business.
Next AMA admits he is mad that Gurley is becoming greedy and unloyal. He states ESPN has found out that Gurley is signing autographs for money and is asking everyone they can if true or not. Seeing the Gurley autograph business is about to be shutdown and already flooded, he uses this "evidence" of Gurley signing autographs. This video and pictures allegedly show a black male with dreads in a car, but you can't ID that person as being Gurley and there is no proof of money being exchanged. He is now shopping the video and pictures to get as much money as he can before another dealer does.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:32 am to roadGator
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why is it the dealers fault?
I agree with what you're saying about it being Todd's fault. If he took money, he broke the rules . Simple. But there should be some punishment for these dealers. A fine, banning them from stuff, something. There is nothing stopping these guys from approaching these kids. This guy made his money and I'm sure he will do it again.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:34 am to roadGator
The backlash is me hunting this dealer down and putting his balls in a vice.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:35 am to dcbl
I disagree with folks giving me a rash of shite for something that I had nothing to do with. I don't really want to have to feel like it's necessary to defend myself at a football game because of this petty crap.
The anger should be directed at the player. Hero worship won't allow that though because the best players are infallible in the eyes of fans for the most part.
I hang with Gators and Dawgs in Jax and only tailgate with sane folks. I've never had any issues.
The anger should be directed at the player. Hero worship won't allow that though because the best players are infallible in the eyes of fans for the most part.
I hang with Gators and Dawgs in Jax and only tailgate with sane folks. I've never had any issues.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:36 am to LewDawg
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The backlash is me hunting this dealer down and putting his balls in a vice.
Before or after doing the same with the only person that broke any rules?
That sounds kinda painful by the way.
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