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We don't appreciate the Mongols enough.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:36 pm
Finally listening to the Wrath of Khan series by Dan Carlin and his Hardcore History podcast.
Genghis Khan's generals and scout armies wiped so many muslim city states off the map.
Wish they would've went a further on into Saudi Arabia and fricked that whole religion down a hole to have never escaped.
Genghis Khan's generals and scout armies wiped so many muslim city states off the map.
Wish they would've went a further on into Saudi Arabia and fricked that whole religion down a hole to have never escaped.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:38 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
This might be racists....
will google for clarification
will google for clarification
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:39 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:43 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
They pretty much ended the golden age of Islam and set Mesopotamia back a few centuries. Europe and the Middle East were at pretty much equal footings before the Mongols but Khan changed everything. Hell, we'd probably be speaking Mongol if his son hadn't died mid way through their invasion of Europe.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:44 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Mongols some of the unfriendliest people I've ever come across in my life. They have weird shaped heads too.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:28 pm to KSGamecock
You're entirely missing the point as to how the Mongolians jump started innovation in the west.
They were the biggest conduit of knowledge that the world had ever seen.
The Mongolians were extremely pragmatic people and made sure the scholars and learned people... Anyone that could contribute to Mongolian dominance were absorbed into the army.
Europeans became aware of things like gunpowder, medical techniques, movable type, compasses.
And they were the indirect cause of the Black Death, which although devastating also led to the rise of the middle class due to the low supply of labor and wages that increased to meet the increased bargaining power of the peasants. After the Black Death the merchant class became rich and the ranks of landed gentry swelled where previously there was a much more stratified society.
Not bad for a group of nomads whose leader was at one point a slave.
They were the biggest conduit of knowledge that the world had ever seen.
The Mongolians were extremely pragmatic people and made sure the scholars and learned people... Anyone that could contribute to Mongolian dominance were absorbed into the army.
Europeans became aware of things like gunpowder, medical techniques, movable type, compasses.
And they were the indirect cause of the Black Death, which although devastating also led to the rise of the middle class due to the low supply of labor and wages that increased to meet the increased bargaining power of the peasants. After the Black Death the merchant class became rich and the ranks of landed gentry swelled where previously there was a much more stratified society.
Not bad for a group of nomads whose leader was at one point a slave.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:30 pm to Volatile
Ummm yea, I wasn't trying to provide an exhaustive history of the Mongols.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:34 pm to KSGamecock
At KS gamecock, perhaps but I think they may have gotten bogged down too much in heavily forested and mountainous areas.
The Mongols relied heavily on mobile mounted archers (Keshiks) and while allowing them to travel blazingly fast as an army through plains that advantage would be negated in Germany.
However the Mongols were good at siege warfare and psychological tactics, using cruelty and ad hoc siege equipment effectively and hastily assembled.
I doubt they could straight up fight with armored Knights. They did win against Europeans in Poland, but only after baiting them feigning retreat for 8 days and picking them apart mercilessly. I doubt other countries would make the same mistake.
The Mongols relied heavily on mobile mounted archers (Keshiks) and while allowing them to travel blazingly fast as an army through plains that advantage would be negated in Germany.
However the Mongols were good at siege warfare and psychological tactics, using cruelty and ad hoc siege equipment effectively and hastily assembled.
I doubt they could straight up fight with armored Knights. They did win against Europeans in Poland, but only after baiting them feigning retreat for 8 days and picking them apart mercilessly. I doubt other countries would make the same mistake.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:35 pm to Volatile
Sorry, haha, it's just that the Mongols are one of my most favorite historical topics. I get long winded. 
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:38 pm to Volatile
It's cool man, everyone has their favorite topics and you clearly are knowledgeable about the Mongols.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:39 pm to Volatile
I admire their rules of warfare. They had none.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:42 pm to five_fivesix
They tried to be nice after conquering the Jin (Jurched). As soon as they left, they rebelled. No more mr. Nice Khan.
Genghis only invaded the Khwarezmids, because they killed his messengers and shamed them. Instead of trading, they started conquest and got revenge.
Dumbass Sultan ruined it for everyone else.
Genghis only invaded the Khwarezmids, because they killed his messengers and shamed them. Instead of trading, they started conquest and got revenge.
Dumbass Sultan ruined it for everyone else.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:45 pm to Volatile
Hey, if you're gonna fight a war, fight a war. Don't try to win hearts and minds. That shite don't work.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:02 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
The part where they built the bridge on top of the still alive Russian soldiers, and had lunch on the bridge as the Russians were slowly crushed/suffocated was some pretty evil shite.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:27 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The part where they built the bridge on top of the still alive Russian soldiers, and had lunch on the bridge as the Russians were slowly crushed/suffocated was some pretty evil shite.
Holy shite, remind me to never frick with the Mongols
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:08 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Mongols some of the unfriendliest people I've ever come across in my life. They have weird shaped heads too.
That's because most of those motherfrickers are direct descendants of that crazy a-hole
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:06 am to CtotheVrzrbck
the muslims in the Arabian peninsula were Bedouins. The the country is named Saudi Arabia only because they eventually named one king whose last name was Saud.
Main point is there wasnt a central government or population to attack. just a fricking lot of sand, camels and tents over 1000s of miles of desert.
Pretty much a dry hole if you wanted riches or other wealth, which is what the Mongols wanted.
Main point is there wasnt a central government or population to attack. just a fricking lot of sand, camels and tents over 1000s of miles of desert.
Pretty much a dry hole if you wanted riches or other wealth, which is what the Mongols wanted.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:46 am to Pavoloco83
Would the Mongols take in graphic artists into their army? I saw a commercial where the U.S. Army was taking in graphic artists. Outstanding.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:45 am to five_fivesix
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Hey, if you're gonna fight a war, fight a war. Don't try to win hearts and minds. That shite don't work.
In modern times, it is the only way you can win a war and maintain a healthy, conscious society.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:19 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
The Mongols are my favorite empire not named 'Murica.
I won many a war on Age of Empires with them.
I won many a war on Age of Empires with them.
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