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Four Teams & Six Bowls?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:08 pm
We all understood that the Selection Committee would be choosing the four teams for the playoff system each year.
It never occurred to me to wonder how the team matchups would arise with regard to the other four of the top six bowls. Until today.
Apparently, the selection committee will be choosing not only the teams for the other four bowlls, but also the match ups within those four bowls.
It would appear that the new arrangement will put an end to situations in which a mediocre team gets a trip to one of the premier bowls, simply due to conference affiliation.
So, does the SEC take the lion's share of the spots in all six premiere bowls?
It never occurred to me to wonder how the team matchups would arise with regard to the other four of the top six bowls. Until today.
Apparently, the selection committee will be choosing not only the teams for the other four bowlls, but also the match ups within those four bowls.
It would appear that the new arrangement will put an end to situations in which a mediocre team gets a trip to one of the premier bowls, simply due to conference affiliation.
So, does the SEC take the lion's share of the spots in all six premiere bowls?
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:10 pm to AggieHank86
SEC staaaaaacked
Committee Bowls fuuuuuucked
Committee Bowls fuuuuuucked
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:10 pm to AggieHank86
Might be dumb question but I honestly don't know. Did they do away with the rule of only two teams per conference in the big bowls (orange/sugar/rose/fiesta) or is that something they kept?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:14 pm to AggieHank86
[quote]SELECTION COMMITTEE BOWL GAMES
BOWL-------- DATE------ LOCATION------- Match-ups
Cotton Bowl--- Jan. 1-- Arlington, Tex.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
Orange Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Miami, Fla.--- ACC vs SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame
Fiesta Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Glendale, Ariz. ---At-Large vs At-Large
Peach Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Atlanta, Ga.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
BOWL-------- DATE------ LOCATION------- Match-ups
Cotton Bowl--- Jan. 1-- Arlington, Tex.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
Orange Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Miami, Fla.--- ACC vs SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame
Fiesta Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Glendale, Ariz. ---At-Large vs At-Large
Peach Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Atlanta, Ga.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:15 pm to LittleRockHog501
I don't think there are any rules regarding how many of one conference can participate in the top 6 bowls, unless I'm mistaken they go strictly by how they feel those teams should be ranked. Basically the top 12 teams in the committee's minds will go to those 6 bowl games. I doubt they would match up any 2 teams from the same conference, except potentially in the big 2 bowl games where 3 teams from one conference get in.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:16 pm to CockHolliday
Interesting that the Orange Bowl is still keeping any conference ties while the others aren't.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:17 pm to CockHolliday
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Interesting that the Orange Bowl is still keeping any conference ties while the others aren't.
I think the Rose is too.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:18 pm to AggieHank86
Five of the top twelve teams are currently SEC.
Theoretically, we could have an SEC team in five of the six major bowls, assuming that the Selection Committee does not apply the kindergarten mentality of "everyone should get to play."
Theoretically, we could have an SEC team in five of the six major bowls, assuming that the Selection Committee does not apply the kindergarten mentality of "everyone should get to play."
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:19 pm to CockHolliday
I believe the Rose and Sugar bowl also have conference ties. The ties only take effect when the bowl is not part of the playoff that year.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:20 pm to AggieHank86
It will be interesting but I think we will never see two SEC teams playing for it all again like we did with LSU and Bama. If two SEC teams make it to the playoffs they will most likely be paired against each other in semi so there would be no chance of having an all SEC championship again. Regardless I think we should have at least 4 teams in the six major bowls. If the committee does its job.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:20 pm to Farmer1906
yup..I think the Rose will keep the Pac 10 & the Sugar will keep the SEC tie-ins when they're not hosting the play-in games...
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:22 pm to AggieHank86
In years when the bowls are not part of the playoff bracket, the highest-ranked non-playoff teams from the following conferences or groups will be selected as follows:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Peach Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Additional selection criteria
-The highest-ranked champion from the "Group of Five" mid-major conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth if the group's top team is not in the playoff.
-The remaining five at-large bids will be determined by committee rankings.
-If the Big Ten or SEC champion is available for a non-playoff bowl in a year when the Rose and Sugar Bowls are hosting semifinals, that team will appear in either the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, or Peach Bowl, but not the Orange Bowl.
-In the Orange Bowl, the SEC and Big Ten are guaranteed at least three appearances during the eight non-playoff years, while Notre Dame can only appear a maximum of twice.
-In non-playoff years, if the Orange Bowl matchup creates a regular-season rematch for the ACC representative, the bowl may choose to "skip over" the prescribed opponent from the SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame group and select the next highest-ranked team from the group. The team that was rejected would be placed in one of the three at-large bowls, if it meets ranking standards.
-In years when the Orange Bowl is a national semifinal, the ACC champion will play in the Fiesta or Peach bowls if it is not selected for the playoff.
-In choosing the pairings for the four non-playoff bowls, the committee will try to create "the most compelling matchups possible", while taking into account geography and team rematches from both the regular season and recent bowls.
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Peach Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five" (committee selection)
Additional selection criteria
-The highest-ranked champion from the "Group of Five" mid-major conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth if the group's top team is not in the playoff.
-The remaining five at-large bids will be determined by committee rankings.
-If the Big Ten or SEC champion is available for a non-playoff bowl in a year when the Rose and Sugar Bowls are hosting semifinals, that team will appear in either the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, or Peach Bowl, but not the Orange Bowl.
-In the Orange Bowl, the SEC and Big Ten are guaranteed at least three appearances during the eight non-playoff years, while Notre Dame can only appear a maximum of twice.
-In non-playoff years, if the Orange Bowl matchup creates a regular-season rematch for the ACC representative, the bowl may choose to "skip over" the prescribed opponent from the SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame group and select the next highest-ranked team from the group. The team that was rejected would be placed in one of the three at-large bowls, if it meets ranking standards.
-In years when the Orange Bowl is a national semifinal, the ACC champion will play in the Fiesta or Peach bowls if it is not selected for the playoff.
-In choosing the pairings for the four non-playoff bowls, the committee will try to create "the most compelling matchups possible", while taking into account geography and team rematches from both the regular season and recent bowls.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:22 pm to AggieHank86
If you look at the ESPN FPI, which will be heavily used in the committee rankings, here are your possible match ups.
National Semifinals
Sugar: Oregon vs. Alabama
Rose: Oklahoma vs. Texas A&M
Other New Year's Six Games
Peach: Georgia vs. East Carolina
Fiesta: UCLA vs. Notre Dame
Cotton: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Orange: Florida State vs. Auburn
First Four Out: Mississippi State, UCLA, LSU, Southern Cal
National Semifinals
Sugar: Oregon vs. Alabama
Rose: Oklahoma vs. Texas A&M
Other New Year's Six Games
Peach: Georgia vs. East Carolina
Fiesta: UCLA vs. Notre Dame
Cotton: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Orange: Florida State vs. Auburn
First Four Out: Mississippi State, UCLA, LSU, Southern Cal
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:23 pm to AggieHank86
The point of this is to offer token access to non Power 5 teams to a "major bowl."
In reality all non-playoff games won't matter. The old distinction of "we played in _____ many BCS games" will be gone.
In reality all non-playoff games won't matter. The old distinction of "we played in _____ many BCS games" will be gone.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:24 pm to justausedcarguy
quote:I'm cool with that, but I have to believe had the system been in place last year they would have tried to split up Bama and Auburn in the first game. A rematch in the final game would have been a total ratings fest after the way the Iron Bowl ended.
If two SEC teams make it to the playoffs they will most likely be paired against each other in semi so there would be no chance of having an all SEC championship again
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:27 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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I'm cool with that, but I have to believe had the system been in place last year they would have tried to split up Bama and Auburn in the first game. A rematch in the final game would have been a total ratings fest after the way the Iron Bowl ended.
Agreed
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:27 pm to Farmer1906
I just saw something to the effect that three bowls ARE maintaining conference affiliation deals: (a) Rose Bowl is "Big-10 vs. PAC-12," (b) Sugar Bowl is "SEC vs. Big-12," and (c) Orange Bowl is "ACC vs. Big-10 or Notre Dame."
The answer which eludes me is whether those affiliations will remain binding if the presumptive participant from a give conference makes one of the two playoff bowls.
For example, the Orange Bowl is not a playoff bowl this year. If an ACC and/or Big-10 team makes the "top four," must the Committee assign to the Orange Bowl a team from those conferences, or can they shift to an "at large" selection.
The answer which eludes me is whether those affiliations will remain binding if the presumptive participant from a give conference makes one of the two playoff bowls.
For example, the Orange Bowl is not a playoff bowl this year. If an ACC and/or Big-10 team makes the "top four," must the Committee assign to the Orange Bowl a team from those conferences, or can they shift to an "at large" selection.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:28 pm to dallasga6
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SELECTION COMMITTEE BOWL GAMES
BOWL-------- DATE------ LOCATION------- Match-ups
Cotton Bowl--- Jan. 1-- Arlington, Tex.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
Orange Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Miami, Fla.--- ACC vs SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame
Fiesta Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Glendale, Ariz. ---At-Large vs At-Large
Peach Bowl--- Dec. 31-- Atlanta, Ga.--- At-Large vs. At-Large
I thought the Cotton was the title game this year?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:29 pm to AggieHank86
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So, does the SEC take the lion's share of the spots in all six premiere bowls?
No. Once and for all, the committee was put in place to promote "fairness." A nebulous word, but one that you can be sure means making sure the conferences are "fairly represented."
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:32 pm to Korin
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I thought the Cotton was the title game this year?
Nope. Dallas is just hosting the title game. Title Game is going to be not tied to a bowl. You could see a site like Indianapolis host in the future.
Basically the nine stadiums that could host the Super Bowl + the Rose Bowl and minus Met Life are a good bet to bid.
Glendale hosts in 2016 and Tampa in 2017.
San Francisco, Minneapolis and Atlanta have announced intention to bid for 2018.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 3:36 pm
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