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Saban is Obviously Right. The Guy is COOL!
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:02 pm
Saban said Sims have the advantage because he knows the system and the players better than Coker. After watching both it is apparent to me that in athletic ability Sims = Coker. 
The truth is that if Sims is injured (Heaven Forbid) I have no doubt that Coker can also get the job done. We are blessed with not one "good" quarterback but with two "great" quarterbacks.
If the defense can come together and fix the pass defense outlook is VERY GOOD!
The truth is that if Sims is injured (Heaven Forbid) I have no doubt that Coker can also get the job done. We are blessed with not one "good" quarterback but with two "great" quarterbacks.
If the defense can come together and fix the pass defense outlook is VERY GOOD!
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:06 pm
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:15 pm to thundercrz
I was impressed with how comfortable Coker was when he came in. It was probably the best he has looked all season as far as being in control of the offense. I still think Coker has a better arm than Sims, but as Sims showed this past weekend, the gap between the arms is not nearly as great as we initially thought. There are also a few things Sims can do that Coker can't do as well. Really, they are just different types of QBs.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:16 pm to thundercrz
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After watching both it is apparent to me that in athletic ability Sims = Coker
Coker is more athletic than AJ, but lacks the athleticism to extend plays and scramble for first downs that Sims has IMO.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:22 pm to thundercrz
The Coker that came in after Sims injury was exactly how I expected him to look. He was poised, confident. I'd feel comfortable if he took over the qb job his senior year even if it gave us four quarterbacks in four years.
It's funny because I've heard a lot of Bama fans say that Coker was overrated because he couldn't beat out Sims. It couldn't be that we have two really good qbs and one is just better right now.
It's funny because I've heard a lot of Bama fans say that Coker was overrated because he couldn't beat out Sims. It couldn't be that we have two really good qbs and one is just better right now.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:00 am to jbond
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Coker is more athletic than AJ, but lacks the athleticism to extend plays and scramble for first downs that Sims has IMO.
I disagree here. I think Coker has the straight line speed to pick up 1st downs.
The difference imo is the way Sims is able to escape sacks. Because they are both still figuring out the system there will occasionally be the unblocked guy that they miss and Sims has been able to embarrass those guys.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:34 am to RTR America
I must know nothing Sims looks light years ahead of Coker. Coker handed the ball off to Derek Henry against an exhausted Florida defense but did throw a nice jump ball. That doesn't mean he can consistently make the right read and lead this offense.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:24 am to labamafan
I agree with you
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:43 am to labamafan
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I must know nothing Sims looks light years ahead of Coker. Coker handed the ball off to Derek Henry against an exhausted Florida defense but did throw a nice jump ball. That doesn't mean he can consistently make the right read and lead this offense.
Exactly.
It amazes me that Coker gets so much credit for doing so little, let Sims must do the amazing after the amazing and still get questioned, doubted, etc.
Dude handed the ball off to Henry who ran it all the way down inside the five yard line. He made one pass, a decent one which let's be honest only a top receiver like Amari could bring down.
This some how equates to him being just a little lesser than Sims.
Some of you guys need to just accept Sims has been the much better guy. IMO, Saban never planned on making Coker the guy, he just didn't want to take shite for picking Sims, so he just let Sims do the talking on the field.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:12 am to YStar
Saban never planned on making Coker the guy. Never? Why in the hell did we recruit him if it was always the plan to make Sims the starter? We could have used that scholly for another middle linebacker.
I read an interview with Clint Trickett where he talked about how glad he was to have a year to learn the system before being the starting qb. He said it would have been impossible for him to learn the system without it. I think we've seen that with Coker, and he has steadily improved throughout this season.
Some Bama fans can't give any credit to anyone else except for their favorite guy. Is it so wrong to think we have two really good qbs and one is just better than the other? Sims beat out Coker, but look at the rest of tSEC. Sims would beat out any one of the qbs playing except Dak and Kenny Hill.
I read an interview with Clint Trickett where he talked about how glad he was to have a year to learn the system before being the starting qb. He said it would have been impossible for him to learn the system without it. I think we've seen that with Coker, and he has steadily improved throughout this season.
Some Bama fans can't give any credit to anyone else except for their favorite guy. Is it so wrong to think we have two really good qbs and one is just better than the other? Sims beat out Coker, but look at the rest of tSEC. Sims would beat out any one of the qbs playing except Dak and Kenny Hill.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:25 am to jbond
quote:This! I hope Kiff is around when Barnett starts.
Coker is more athletic than AJ, but lacks the athleticism to extend plays and scramble for first downs that Sims has IMO.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:37 am to thundercrz
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in athletic ability Sims = Coker.
Na. Coker is big, and he can run, but he isnt as athletic as Sims overall.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:37 am to MontyFranklyn
In regards to arm strength from what I've seen Sims has more zip on passes. Much of that comes from confidence, but I like the trigger and release as well.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:53 am to chattabama
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Saban never planned on making Coker the guy. Never?
I am obviously speaking of after camp ended and the season started and yes, I do believe he already picked Sims to be the guy. Hence why Sims started every game. The only ones Sims didn't play heavily in were the ones we completely dominated quickly/effortlessly.
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Is it so wrong to think we have two really good qbs and one is just better than the other? Sims beat out Coker, but look at the rest of tSEC. Sims would beat out any one of the qbs playing except Dak and Kenny Hill.
1). Coker hasn't proven himself to be good yet. That is stuff people are making up. We HOPE he will be good in future, but as of today he has done nothing to prove the hype he has been given. I mean come on, we still have posters saying they don't "buy into Sims hype" yet they bought into Cokers and what has he done?
2). If you believe Sims would beat out the entire SEC, why has Saban so slow to officially announce Sims our starter?
He started him every game, played him the majority of them and only allowed the other QBs to play when we were blowing teams out.
So why? I'll tell you why. He believed Sims the winner after camp, but didn't want to deal with the blowback he dealt with from our fanbase like when he hired Lane Kiffin (another move I supported greatly
). If you say Saban doesn't care, you're wrong because he obviously does with him mentioned the shite he took for hiring Kiffin yesterday.This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:25 am to YStar
I don't think there was a big backlash against the Kiffin hire from the fans. There were some who were unsure, but they were the minority. Most people from this board to BOL were in love with the hire and ready to see Nuss go. Where Saban received the most backlash was from the media and rival fans, not Bama fans. And he still didn't give a shite. He was using yesterday for another opportunity to say "I told you so". He loves those.
Saban doesn't give a shite what the media thinks, and he wouldn't let that dictate his actions. He placates no one.
Saban doesn't give a shite what the media thinks, and he wouldn't let that dictate his actions. He placates no one.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:25 pm to chattabama
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Saban doesn't give a shite what the media thinks, and he wouldn't let that dictate his actions. He placates no one.
1). It is a lie to say he doesn't care what the media thinks, if he didn't he wouldn't be so angry about what they print/report.
2). He doesn't let the media or anyone dictate his actions, TRUE. That is why Coker; the lesser QB, is on the bench. However, he is NOT rash about how he does things.
Not letting them dictate his decisions doesn't mean he isn't sensitive to the backlash of the media and fans regarding his decisions. If he wasn't he wouldn't have complained about getting shite for hiring Kiffin. If he wasn't his wife wouldn't have rightfully criticized our fanbase.
The truth is he does what he feels is right, but he is well aware of the backlash and criticism so he seems to lightly go about making things happen instead of rashly doing them.
Want another example besides this Sims situation???
Remember when Lane first came to visit. I was one of maybe two posters on here who predicted we would definitely be hiring him. I knew he was slowly bringing him in (had no clue it was to be OC though). That entire process they said occurred in my opinion was just to credit the hire and soften the shock/impact/criticism. I feel Saban wanted Nuss gone, (remember how fast Nuss left?) and immediately sought Kiffin to replace him.
Saban isn't a fool. He isn't some rash idiot who just does things and says he doesn't care about how people take it and what criticism he gets.
He is not foolish.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:34 pm to YStar
Saban doesn't care about what the media/fans think or fricking Adrian Hubbard wouldn't have had a starting job.
Think of all the other personnel decisions Saban has made that the fanbase disagrees with. Hell, if Saban really cared about the fanbase's opinions we would have at least seen some competition at left guard. Instead Arie started the spring as left guard and stayed there. There was very little threat to his starting job though many were calling for him to sit on the bench. As it turns out, Saban did what he wanted (kept Arie where he was), didn't try to appease the fanbase, and it worked out for the better. We still haven't seen Cyrus Jones get benched despite the majority thinking he belongs there.
Saban cares about the fans staying for 60 because it negatively affects players and recruiting when they don't. Who wants to come play for an empty stadium? (Besides LSU commits, of course ) he doesn't care for the sake of caring. It has an angle, an agenda if you will.
Saban had Kiffin come in during the Sooner Bowl because he wanted him to come in. Saban could hire Gene Chizik for our next OC, and you think anyone would stop giving to the university? Buying season tickets? Going to the games? Not unless the product on the field soured.
Similarly, Saban could have done just as Sumlin did and announced a starter before the game. Did Sumlin receive any major backlash? Would Saban have? Doubt it. Unless Sims marched out and looked like Anthony Jennings against WVU.
Think of all the other personnel decisions Saban has made that the fanbase disagrees with. Hell, if Saban really cared about the fanbase's opinions we would have at least seen some competition at left guard. Instead Arie started the spring as left guard and stayed there. There was very little threat to his starting job though many were calling for him to sit on the bench. As it turns out, Saban did what he wanted (kept Arie where he was), didn't try to appease the fanbase, and it worked out for the better. We still haven't seen Cyrus Jones get benched despite the majority thinking he belongs there.
Saban cares about the fans staying for 60 because it negatively affects players and recruiting when they don't. Who wants to come play for an empty stadium? (Besides LSU commits, of course
) he doesn't care for the sake of caring. It has an angle, an agenda if you will. Saban had Kiffin come in during the Sooner Bowl because he wanted him to come in. Saban could hire Gene Chizik for our next OC, and you think anyone would stop giving to the university? Buying season tickets? Going to the games? Not unless the product on the field soured.
Similarly, Saban could have done just as Sumlin did and announced a starter before the game. Did Sumlin receive any major backlash? Would Saban have? Doubt it. Unless Sims marched out and looked like Anthony Jennings against WVU.
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