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Intentional grounding play
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:21 pm
Here is the play...
1) He isn't outside the pocket.
2) The ball doesn't make it back to the line of scrimmage.
3) Hicks is at least 5 yards away and isn't looking when Mason throws it.
Watching the play develop, it almost looks like a busted play from the get go. All the linemen are blocking towards the left side of the line, while Hicks is the only one running towards the right (he was intended receiver). It looks almost like they were setting up the screen in the middle, but Hicks was running wide right.
1) He isn't outside the pocket.
2) The ball doesn't make it back to the line of scrimmage.
3) Hicks is at least 5 yards away and isn't looking when Mason throws it.
Watching the play develop, it almost looks like a busted play from the get go. All the linemen are blocking towards the left side of the line, while Hicks is the only one running towards the right (he was intended receiver). It looks almost like they were setting up the screen in the middle, but Hicks was running wide right.
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:22 pm to dawgsjw
Interesting. If it weren't Germans, I would say it was the correct call.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:26 pm to dawgsjw
It looks like it hit the dt in the thigh. Dont see how it can be intentional grounding if it hits a defender first.Right?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:32 pm to dawgsjw
The ball hit the defender. If it hadn't it would have fell at Hicks feet.
Did he intentionally throw the ball down...yes, but if it hadn't hit the defender, then there would have been a receiver in the vicinity of where the ball was thrown.
Did he intentionally throw the ball down...yes, but if it hadn't hit the defender, then there would have been a receiver in the vicinity of where the ball was thrown.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:36 pm to dawgsjw
It was a failed bootleg. Defender didn't go for the fake and was right on top of Mason quickly.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:40 pm to FlatwoodsForester
Yes if the ball would of went through the defended, then yeah it could of made it to Hicks, but he almost hits the guy in the nuts, so there is no way that ball is gonna get to Hicks.
I dont even think the refs saw it hit the defender.
I dont even think the refs saw it hit the defender.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:40 pm to bitemetechfans
quote:If the ball was touched by the defender in any way, then it was a bad call. You can't call grounding, PI etc on a batted (i.e. touched) ball....
It looks like it hit the dt in the thigh. Dont see how it can be intentional grounding if it hits a defender first.Right?
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:43 pm to dawgsjw
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Yes if the ball would of went through the defended, then yeah it could of made it to Hicks, but he almost hits the guy in the nuts
So what are you saying? It was a bad call. I agree.
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so there is no way that ball is gonna get to Hicks.
It doesn't have to get to him. You just have to have an eligible receiver in close proximity to where the ball is thrown. That would have been the case if not for the ball hitting the defender first.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:47 pm to davesdawgs
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failed bootleg. Defender didn't go for the fake and was right on top of Mason quickly.
It was a failed "Naked Boot" as he had no blocker rolling out in front. RT blocks down and actually touches NO ONE. DE came untouched. Why not a reach block on that DE from Kolton Houston????? Even more risky play call.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:12 pm to dawgsjw
What's your point? None of that is relevant to why it wasn't intentional grounding?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:19 pm to dawgsjw
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:23 pm to HinesvilleThrill
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:23 pm to dawgsjw
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Intentional grounding play...shoulda bee a run
FIFY
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:31 pm to dallasga6
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
why didn't he just throw at hicks feet...might have been able to complete it as well and who knows if they could have stopped big Q or not
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:54 pm to HinesvilleThrill
Surely Kolton was supposed to pick up the DE? No way they let they guy come clean by design.
Nice block by Conley.
The play would have left Hicks 1 on 1 to the stick with a head of steam. Money on Hicks.
1)I don't think they say it hit the defender
2)Mason points it out but should have raised more hell about it + he needs to sell the throw away a bit better. He wasn't expecting that DE to be there.
Nice block by Conley.
The play would have left Hicks 1 on 1 to the stick with a head of steam. Money on Hicks.
1)I don't think they say it hit the defender
2)Mason points it out but should have raised more hell about it + he needs to sell the throw away a bit better. He wasn't expecting that DE to be there.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:21 pm to dawgsjw
You've seen the video and still can't admit you are wrong.
The ball was thrown about a yard behind Hicks, clearly.
The ball was thrown about a yard behind Hicks, clearly.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:30 pm to samson'sseed
quote:The ball was thrown more than a yard behind Hicks. But after further review I see the ball actually hits off the DE and shoulda been 2nd and goal on the 4. I didnt even see it after posting it until someone mentioned it.
You've seen the video and still can't admit you are wrong.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:57 pm to dawgsjw
Mason could have made it look a little better and not gotten called for grounding. Didn't look like he in immediate danger of getting sacked (as in he could have thrown out of the end zone).Inexperience.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:54 pm to dawgsjw
A couple of things....
First, #75 missed the block on the defender that broke up the play and almost got Mason. He makes the block and Quayvon walks in.
Second...there were like 10 guys in the box...the fullback pass was a great call.
And Mason obviously threw it into the SC guys leg....which wasn't even in the same direction as the fullback.
First, #75 missed the block on the defender that broke up the play and almost got Mason. He makes the block and Quayvon walks in.
Second...there were like 10 guys in the box...the fullback pass was a great call.
And Mason obviously threw it into the SC guys leg....which wasn't even in the same direction as the fullback.
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