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Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS

Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by sarc
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:11 pm
A bottle of water costs $4.50 at BDS versus $2 at Jordan Hare. Additionally, BDS doesn't allow fans to bring in empty containers to fill up at water fountains whereas A&M, Kentucky, Mizzou, and Auburn do. BDS also charges for an empty cup.

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The temperature on Saturday at noon, one hour after kickoff, was 92 degrees. The heat index, a combination of air temperature and relative humidity, was 98 degrees. James Spann, chief meteorologist for ABC 33/40, said the average temperature for early September is in the mid ?to upper 80s.


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“Ninety-nine medical related calls were logged on Saturday – most being heat related,” said Cathy Andreen, director of media relations for The University of Alabama. “Of the heat related calls, the majority of persons treated only required assistance to a shaded area to sit down and cool off. Only 26 medical calls resulted in transports to the hospital. Those transports were not all heat related.”


CW article
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:14 pm to
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A bottle of water costs $4.50 at BDS versus $2 at Jordan Hare.


No one is willing to drink anything found in Auburn. Gotta mark that price down.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:28 pm to
Good. I hate venues that gouge. I think its bullshite. And then they expect us to tip the workers on top of the 8 dollar soda. frick that.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:33 pm to
And they always give 50 cent pieces back as change. What's up with that?
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:43 pm to
Good that they wrote it.

It will fall on deaf ears though.


Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:04 pm to
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addresses price gouging in BDS


Where do they even mention gouging. They complain about the high price but never say they raised the price because the heat went up. Also people need to realize the University does not run the concessions. They are contracted out to a vender who oversees the operation. The individual stands are run by non profit groups who get a % of the sales. Those groups will get dinged for any inventory that goes missing and does not match up to receipts. Which means they also reduce the amount money they are trying to raise.

Centerplate I believe is the company they contract with to run concessions which also happens to be one of the largest in the country including events like the Super Bowl.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:09 pm to
Private property rights, brah.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:13 pm to
They don't call it gouging and I didn't mean to imply that prices are increased because it was a hot day. It's the same price all season long. I consider it gouging when you have a captive audience for 4+ hours and charge prices more than double what the product would cost anywhere outside the stadium. Amusement parks are notorious for doing the same thing and the article states a bottle of water only costs $2.50 at Disney World.

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Also people need to realize the University does not run the concessions. They are contracted out to a vender who oversees the operation


I would encourage the University to find a different vendor.

Also, I would think the university does control the policy of disallowing people from bringing in empty containers which I wouldn't have a problem with if the price of bottled water inside was reasonable.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:20 pm to
I am the adviser for a business fraternity and we raise most our money working events for companies like this. One venue we sell 24oz beers for $14 and another 16oz draft for $12. Even at the same venue the prices will change when it is a concert vs an NBA game. We worked the US Open this year and water was 4.50 and we could not keep it in stock with temps in the high 90's at Pinehurst.

The only way it will ever change is when the compnany and the university stop making money off of it. The university gets a % of all sales in the stadium from concessions. That money I assume goes back into the athletic dept which helps fund one of the highest staff salaries in CFB. The only way you will see prices go down is when Saban retires and the payroll goes down for the new staff.

So $4.50 for a bottle of water or Saban
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Also, I would think the university does control the policy of disallowing people from bringing in empty containers which I wouldn't have a problem with if the price of bottled water inside was reasonable.


I doubt it and the contract probably states not to allow it so the vendors make more money. But venues also have rules. We work some where we have to pour the water into a cup so they can not have a bottle to throw. The Jimmy Buffet concert we were not allow to sell bear except in a cup. Apparantly he has been to drunk to perform and carries a few scars on his head from upset gueats who threw bottles at him.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Where do they even mention gouging. They complain about the high price but never say they raised the price because the heat went up.


That isn't why its gouging.


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Also people need to realize the University does not run the concessions. They are contracted out to a vender who oversees the operation. The


that doesnt make it right.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:31 pm to
It is irresponsible for the university to not allow empty containers for water especially during September. If something serious were to happen, such as a heat stroke, I wonder if the university could be found liable.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:31 pm to
Price gouging usually in most situations refers to raising the price of an item when demand increases. Such as the temps are high and today I will water at a higher price. Like when a hurricane is coming and gas stations raise their price for people heading out of town. Usually a set price for the term of a period is not considered gouging.

And yes I completely agree it is not right but the university has an expense budget it has to cover as well.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:33 pm to
I think they could. One outside arena we work on hot days they provide free water and cups throughout the venue because they said a lawsuit could be brought but they do not have water fountains and since BDS does maybe not.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52628 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Price gouging usually in most situations refers to raising the price of an item when demand increases. Such as the temps are high and today I will water at a higher price. Like when a hurricane is coming and gas stations raise their price for people heading out of town. Usually a set price for the term of a period is not considered gouging.


I understand how gouging works. Demand also increases when people have no access to any other option for food and drink. The vendors know this, thus allowing them to sell their products at absurdly high prices. Prices people wouldn't normally pay if they had any other option.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:39 pm to
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A bottle of water costs $4.50 at BDS versus $2 at Jordan Hare.


What sizes are we talking here?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64930 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:40 pm to
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The only way it will ever change is when the compnany and the university stop making money off of it.


It's really difficult for that to change when you're the only option. They aren't allowed to bring in a container from outside the stadium. So they can either pay the outrageous price or suffer through dehydration just to make a statement. Which one would you rather do?
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:41 pm to
I understand that the university can do it but I disagree that they need to do it and I don't think they should do it. There is a practical point too. Michigan never had trouble selling out games in the past through good times and bad. They're having trouble now because the fans feel like the most recent AD treats the fans like customers instead of fans. I hope the university realizes that our football program won't always be on top and they're going to need us to fill up that 101K stadium when that time comes.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:44 pm to
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What sizes are we talking here?


Good question. Didn't see it addressed in the article.
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