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Why is this A&M team different than 12 and 13?

Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:14 pm
Since joining the SEC, A&Ms record in conference is a decent but not impressive 11-6. The offense looks stellar but Vegas still had total wins at 7.5 preseason with the likes of Ole Miss and Miss St. Besides the big win over USC, why the sudden change in fortune? Is this your standard week 1 overreaction or will A&M actually contend in the West for the first time?

Out of the six legitimate games left on A&Ms schedule (@State, Miss, @Bama, @Aub, Mizzou, LSU) how many do they win? My prediction is 3-3 to finish 9-3 for 3rd in the West.

Can A&M fans give me the top 3 reasons why the ceiling is higher than this?
Posted by BugaSuga36os
Member since Jun 2014
284 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:17 pm to
They are not any different. Their defense will get exposed. Most likely 9-3, 10-2 at best.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1734 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

why the sudden change in fortune? Is this your standard week 1 overreaction or will A&M actually contend in the West for the first time?


We lost two games in 12 by a combined 8 points. If we draw kentucky instead of Florida, we make it to Atlanta in year 1. Competitive in 3 of our 4 losses in 13 and all of those losses were to ranked teams.

quote:

Out of the six legitimate games left on A&Ms schedule (@State, Miss, @Bama, @Aub, Mizzou, LSU) how many do they win? My prediction is 3-3 to finish 9-3 for 3rd in the West.


Need some good bounces but I would say 3-3 is the floor with 4-2 or 5-1 being the most likely. Outside chance at 6-0.

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Can A&M fans give me the top 3 reasons why the ceiling is higher than this?


1.) Best offense in the SEC
2.) The DL is far surpassing even those who were chugging Maroon Koolaid.
3.) The SEC west has all looked formidable but no one is "unbeatable". That is to say, at this point A&M could beat any team in the SEC west without everyones jaw dropping in disbelief.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:19 pm to
The are not. People like to jump off cliffs and are prone to knee jerk over reactions the first couple of weeks of football season.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

1.) Best offense in the SEC.
2.) The DL is far surpassing even those who were chugging Maroon Koolaid.


1.) Let's wait and see on that.
2.) I have been surprised by the DL, especially in the middle.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Can A&M fans give me the top 3 reasons why the ceiling is higher than this?



1. 2012 A&M recruiting ranking: 15
2. 2013 A&M recruiting ranking: 11
3. 2014 A&M recruiting ranking: 6
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:25 pm to
Front 7 on defense is significantly better than 2013, and maybe better than 2012. Many of the fish that played (Hall/Walker/Arnold/Mastrogiovanni) are bigger this year, and playing w/ more confidence. And several of the true fish this year (Garrett/Zaycoven Henderson) have been able to step right in. Particularly Garrett, who already has as many Sacks as the 2013 team sack leader had. We also look like we have at least one Safety that can play, Armani Watts.

Add that to a stellar offense, and you have a contender. Not really for an undefeated season, but who is expecting to get out of the West undefeated?
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19202 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:28 pm to
Miles Garrett. He is going to draw double teams against a lot of teams.

I'm shocked he's better than advertised.

Also, Watts likes to hit.

We MAY see what a very good Aggie offense coupled with an average to above average defense can do.
Posted by Oh Lawd
Member since Sep 2014
497 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:30 pm to
There arsenal of skill players is much bigger and the defense does look somewhat improved.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:31 pm to
Aggy won't win another SEC game. They don't have JFF, Mike Evans, or Jake Matthews.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:33 pm to
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They are not any different. Their defense will get exposed. Most likely 9-3, 10-2 at best.



No offense to LSU, but do you think LSU will go 10-2?

What makes LSU different this year? I mean...you lost almost your entire offense yet you guys are still confident. Why shouldn't A&M be confident, too?
Posted by Oh Lawd
Member since Sep 2014
497 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:37 pm to
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No offense to LSU, but do you think LSU will go 10-2?

What makes LSU different this year? I mean...you lost almost your entire offense yet you guys are still confident. Why shouldn't A&M be confident, too?



We're much more balanced then A&M.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:37 pm to
They are like any contender in the SEC West, can probably beat any team when they are on their game, but lose to them if they are not. It will be a very interesting year. Defense looks a bit better, I don't have a enough info on them yet to determine how much better the D actually is.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:38 pm to
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can probably beat any team when they are on their game, but lose to them if they are not


Mind = Blown
Posted by BugaSuga36os
Member since Jun 2014
284 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:39 pm to
Did not say they should not be confident. OP asked a question, and I gave my opinion.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

but do you think LSU will go 10-2?

I think it's likely LSU will win 10 games this year, yes.

quote:

What makes LSU different this year?

Nothing.
quote:

lost almost your entire offense

Yes, I would expect a down year after losing so many players to the draft.

That's why I predict only 10 wins.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by PurpleandGoldmember
Member since Jun 2014
483 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:49 pm to
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We lost two games in 12 by a combined 8 points.


You also only beat Ole Miss by 3 and LA tech by 2 that season.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

1. 2012 A&M recruiting ranking: 15
2. 2013 A&M recruiting ranking: 11
3. 2014 A&M recruiting ranking: 6


That definitely gets you in the ball game.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1734 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

You also only beat Ole Miss by 3 and LA tech by 2 that season.



And? My point is that saying that we haven't even "competed" for the west yet is a joke.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:53 pm to
It is not completely out of nowhere since A&M has been recruiting well but sometimes it just happens that a team comes together. Many dominating championship caliber teams were not preseason Top 10 but very early show signs of being special.

Now A&M at this point has not done enough to be directly compared to Championship teams of year past but they have looked very good I’m afraid.

It all comes down to close games. They may not be in many dogfights in the 4th Q, but inevitably they will at very least a 2-3 games. What happens there will determine their fate.
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