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Very few redshirts?

Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:37 am
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:37 am
Gates has played, as did the Moore's and Pack.

Can't understand why these players didn't redshirt. We don't need them this year. Webster and Hampton are needed for second team play.

Penn State was built on the backs of redshirts. We need to do the same and burning a redshirt needs to be rare. Look at Kailo Moore.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:32 am to
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Gates has played, as did the Moore's and Pack.

Can't understand why these players didn't redshirt. We don't need them this year. Webster and Hampton are needed for second team play.


We need these guys to play. If you feel you have a shot to go deep you can bet your last dollar you are going to have to have depth.

Garrald McDowell isn't playing because we are deep on the DL. Same for Breland Speaks.

DK Buford, Jordan Sims, Dayall Harris, Akeem Judd, Sammie Epps, Victor Evans, Sean Rawlings.

There are some 4 star guys in there who in the past would have played because they had to. Freeze is building the program the right way.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:56 am to
We are still a class away from having a dozen + redshirts... And that's fine... I love the decision to RS Judd... Sets up our backfield for 2016...

Dodson Sr.
Judd RS Sr.
Wilkins RS Jr.
Swinney RS Fr.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:08 am to
I'm so excited for Swinney
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:55 am to
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Dodson Sr.
Judd RS Sr.
Wilkins RS Jr.
Swinney RS Fr.


You're missing the best back out of that group
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:56 am to
You gonna post on tRant sometime this month?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:57 am to
Who
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:03 am to
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Can't understand why these players didn't redshirt. We don't need them this year. Webster and Hampton are needed for second team play.



I'll trust our coaches, who have seen these guys practice and work out day-in and day-out over the past several months.

We're thin at linebacker, so it makes sense that Gates has seen time. Don't forget, we had to play Taylor fricking Polk for several minutes against boise State, so that position needs serious help. (This is not a knock on Polk, who is a great player. He's just way too small to play legit SEC football right now.)

A.J. Moore is playing because Chief Brown got hurt. He's literally in the two-deep at huskie. C.J. Moore is too athletic to not have on the field, even if in special teams.

Markell Pack is returning punts (better than Korvic Neat, might I add) which isn't exactly something to turn your nose up at.

So, yeah, your opinion sucks shite.

quote:

Penn State was built on the backs of redshirts.


Players redshirted last year:
-Bouldin
-D. Johnson
-Kincade
-Buchanan
-Wilkins
-Polk
-H. Moore
-Gleeson
-Brazley
-Pappanastos
(probably many others I'm forgetting)

Players who haven't yet played this year and will presumably redshirt:
-Speaks
-Harris (maybe, maybe not)
-Epps (maybe, maybe not)
-Evans
-Doss
-Sims
-Rawlings
-Buford


So, yeah, we redshirt plenty of players. Shut the frick up, Matthew.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 9:05 am
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:12 am to
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You gonna post on tRant sometime this month?


My bad. Point me to a thread and let's go.

ETA: Realist, stay the eff out and let me look like an idiot.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14655 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:12 am to
Justin
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:21 am to
He will be a red shirt so he doesn't count.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14655 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:23 am to
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He will be a freshman Heisman so you're right AC.


Glad you get it.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25269 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Gates has played, as did the Moore's and Pack.


quote:

Can't understand why these players didn't redshirt.


They have played football for us already for a reason. I forget why...

quote:

We don't need them this year.


We needed them in the 1st two games.

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Penn State was built on the backs of redshirts


I don't want to follow any program model of a Big 10 school.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:53 pm to
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I don't want to follow any program model of a Big 10 school.


How you use to do it is how you USE to do it. If you can use the kid and he makes your team better, use him. You cant RS everyone or you will end up having every class being 15 commits. A good program can RS kids like Speaks, McDowell, and Evans because we have built depth there. LB's and Safeties will rarely get RS'd if they are good enough because you need those guys on ST. If you recruit like a SEC team should then redshirting is not a big deal.If we cant use a kid, RS. If we can and he makes our team better, play him.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:18 pm to
So we need Pack to catch a punt and hand the ball to the ref? We have no one else who can fair catch? Seriously?

We burned Attaboyjoe last year on a few catches against scrub teams. A waste. Pack will catch even fewer than Atta.

The decision on Gates is as puzzling as Pack. Polk played b/c Freeze made the numbnut decision to sit the elder Nkem. Bad decision.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:29 pm to
Dude what are you talking about.

Pack is playing because we are thin at WR and he is the next guy up.

Attaboy played last year because everyone knew we would be thin this year. He isn't running around not knowing what the heck to do. He has played in big games.

Denzel was suspended for disciplinary reasons. It was the right thing to do. He isn't bigger than the team. The move gave him a piece of humble pie. As far as Gates goes if two linebackers go down with leg cramps against Bama do you seriously want to ride with Taylor Polk for a few series? Of course not. He us needed for depth and special teams. Nothing against Polk, he plays hard. I'd rather have the four star LB who is physically pretty close.

You don't RS the entire freaking class. If you do that you won'thave spots to recruit future years.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48668 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:55 pm to
I'm glad you responded to him. I didn't have the energy.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:59 pm to
matt needs to take a break
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:10 am to
He and Pivey should go on vacation.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:26 am to
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We burned Attaboyjoe last year on a few catches against scrub teams. A waste. Pack will catch even fewer than Atta.


Ummmm... He made a pretty big 4th down catch vs aTm last year.

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