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FBI reports Hispanics do not commit crimes.....

Posted on 9/6/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Bogie00
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:00 pm to
Disgusting how agenda driven our Government has become.

Let's ignore statistics and demonize white people
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:10 pm to
It's interesting as I do see a lot of forms where white/Hispanic are categorized together.

Be interested to see it broken down white/black/Asian/ Hispanic and legal/illegal
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:16 pm to
It's clear to me this is a ploy not to hide Hispanic crime but to ensure that another race is not at the top of the crime stats.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:20 pm to
Only white male individuals are autonomous and responsible for their actions. Minorities are examined anthropologically because they are stupid and inferior and impressionable and any misdeed they commit is due to society's influence.

This is the inherent bigotry of the liberal mindset. It's the reason they want to explain away Ferguson and elsewhere and chalk it up to society and the system. It's the reason they say we create terrorist groups simply by having bases in Saudi Arabia and ties to Israel. It's the reason we can only talk about why, for instance, the black criminal class exists in every city, and we can never mention it directly. I may very well be called a racist for mentioning it directly.
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 8:35 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:30 pm to
Sincerely, the FBI doesn't have an agenda, no matter who gets into office.

Joe Rogan had an ex-CIA Operator on his show and his outlook is the same as my own: They're probably not reporting certain data because it's either A. Been corrupted or B. is unquantifiable.

I imagine there are a ton of illegal Hispanic immigrants who would inflate the frick out of the numbers or make it damn near impossible to get accurate ones in proportion to their representation.

It says right in the article that it's likely because a lot are illegal aliens, which isn't fair to actual citizens to be lumped in with that activity.

That makes sense.
Posted by Bogie00
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

It says right in the article that it's likely because a lot are illegal aliens, which isn't fair to actual citizens to be lumped in with that activity.


So, is it fair/accurate to list illegal obviously Hispanics as white?

Don't know whose agenda it is, but it exists.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 8:47 pm to
It should read, they don't prosecute illegals for crimes in America. That's been the experience in Kentucky anyway.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

So, is it fair/accurate to list illegal obviously Hispanics as white?

Don't know whose agenda it is, but it exists.


Honestly they should be their own, separate group as "non-citizens". At least that's my opinion.

I'm saying that there's probably little agenda, especially from the FBI and there's probably a more pragmatic answer.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 9:50 pm to
I imagine this is the way it goes in the interview:

Cop: What is your race?
Mexican: blank stare
Cop: are you white?
Mexican: Si
Cop: ok.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

I imagine this is the way it goes in the interview:

Cop: What is your race?
Mexican: blank stare
Cop: are you white?
Mexican: Si
Cop: ok.





Although there is a large contingent of people here who wish they had lighter skin. Zie Chosen Ones.

My last name, ironically, is Hispanic (I was adopted) and I remember telling a cop that I was white and after reading my ID card he said with a completely stoic expression: I'll bet........amigo.
Posted by Bogie00
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:23 pm to
It is just lame to group illegals as white. And definitely is misrepresenting the facts.

They list data of crimes against Hispanics, but not crimes that they commit. That is the aspect that makes it look bad on part of FBI.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

It is just lame to group illegals as white. And definitely is misrepresenting the facts.

They list data of crimes against Hispanics, but not crimes that they commit. That is the aspect that makes it look bad on part of FBI.


Technically, white isn't dictated by culture or even skin color. "Caucasian" references both European Americans and a collection of others -- Including but not limited to: Iranians, Northern Indians, really most of the Middle East is considered for the most part Caucasian on the four Race scale.

So, they could legitimately be white when they report, in spite of being culturally Hispanic.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:47 pm to
Then why list crimes against Hispanics?

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:14 pm to
They are whites when they commit crimes, but they are Hispanic when they are crime victims.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Then why list crimes against Hispanics?


That's a DoJ report, not an FBI report.

"The UCR classifies most Hispanics into the "white" category. The NCVS classifies some Hispanic criminals as "white" and some as "other race". The victim categories for the NCVS are more distinct."

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-offenders

Here's an official FBI report -- you'll notice Hispanics are unrepresented on the offender spectrum.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-victims

You'll also notice that they are similarly not on the victim spectrum from FBI except when used as a motivation.

The FBI and the DoJ are different animals.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:24 pm to
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/hus11.pdf

I also found this and of course, my suspicions turned out to be true.

" Note: Homicide rates by Hispanic or Latino origin were not calculated due to
missing data on ethnicity. See Methodology. "
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5703 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 8:47 am to
I was just told a new report from California schools says nearly 1 in 3 students are illegal or cannot speak English.

Governor Brown reports
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 9:41 am
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

The SHR data collection form allows for the reporting of information on victim ethnicity; however, on average from 1992 to 2011, more than 98% of homicide victims for whom data were reported to the SHR were missing information on ethnicity.


That large a discrepancy makes it obvious that local agencies are being told to ignore ethnicity when it comes to reporting. Who is giving that order is the $64,000 question.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76173 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 10:18 am to
quote:

It should read, they don't prosecute illegals for crimes in America. That's been the experience in Kentucky anyway.

Not true in La. I've represented a few illegals.
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