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The political economics of college athletics

Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:59 pm
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:59 pm
This is a compelling article about the oligarchy of the NCAA. It made nearly 1B USD last year 84% of which came from March Madness. (That actually surprised me). While I am a fan of college athletics, I think the time that the money made from it be distributed to the athletes who make it possible is long over due.

LINK

Well worth the read.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:23 pm to
That is why they really dont give a shite about football. all their money comes from basketball
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:31 pm to
NCAA must be kicking themselves for letting College Football go to the bowl format.

Playoff revenue would be amazing
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

I think the time that the money made from it be distributed to the athletes who make it possible is long over due.


Hell will literally freeze over long before the U.S. Department of Education ever allows this to happen.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

84% of which came from March Madness.



quote:

I think the time that the money made from it be distributed to the athletes who make it possible is long over due.


So only men's basketball players should be paid?
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:59 pm to
Technically the benefits a college athlete recieves is equivalent to about $80k in taxable income once you throw in the personal training, food / nutritional supplements, tutors, and clothes.

Ask a ECHL player or single A ball player if they'd trade places. Plus college poon so there's that.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:00 pm to
quote:


NCAA must be kicking themselves for letting College Football go to the bowl format.

Playoff revenue would be amazing


This.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:21 pm to
Something I have always wondered ....

CFB total attendance vs CBB total attendance?

I mean ... if it might show anything.

TV is a mighty powerful thing.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:27 am to
quote:

I think the time that the money made from it be distributed to the athletes who make it possible is long over due.



Absolutely Agree.

It needs to come in the form of several things:

1. An absolute guarantee of a complete education, including tuition, books, room and board - regardless if they become hurt or injured and can no long play.

2. Medical care for the rest of their life for injuries received on the playing field, during training, practice or in actual participation of their sport, regardless whether they can continue to play the sport or not as a result of the injury.

3. Some type of monthly stipend while they are actively involved with a team representing a school.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:22 am to
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1. An absolute guarantee of a complete education, including tuition, books, room and board - regardless if they become hurt or injured and can no long play.


Should be voided if they leave early, cheat, flunk out, or get caught breakin the law.

quote:

2. Medical care for the rest of their life for injuries received on the playing field, during training, practice or in actual participation of their sport, regardless whether they can continue to play the sport or not as a result of the injury


Makes sense.
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3. Some type of monthly stipend while they are actively involved with a team representing a school.


Do walk ons and scrubs and women's polo players get as much as the starting point gaurd?

Also when bitching about the money in college sports lets not confuse top line revenue with profit.

For example I think LSU's expenditures for football alone was something north of $45M, and Hawaii's football program is in such shitty shape that they are thinking of shutting it down.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:54 am to
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NCAA must be kicking themselves for letting College Football go to the bowl format.


Do people even know the history of the NCAA anymore?

Started out as a government mandate and Dr Dudley (who started what became the SEC) was an original member. After WWII the NCAA used the point shaving scandal in NYC to gain monopolistic control of both football and basketball. This monopoly became the tool of the B1G and to a lesser extent the PCC (now the PAC) and national football on TV was doled out to few teams with heavy favoritism. Walter Byers ruled as a dictator and conferences like the SEC suffered greatly for over a quarter of a century until the revolt in the 1970's.

Schools not in the B1G or PAC revolted in the 1970's and 3 events broke the monopoly forever :

#1 ESPN formed and the ACC and Big East benefitted
#2 NCAA vs Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma
#3 CFA formed to the benefit of the SEC, Big 8, SWC, and IND's

Had Walter Byers not pimped the B1G and PAC for a quarter of a century at the expense of the rest of CFB the NCAA would probably still have control of football the way they still do in college basketball. Rupp was so furious at what happened in the NIT that he vowed never to go back and the NCAA used him as a cornerstone to make March Madness what it is today.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:15 am to
Most college degrees are a joke, especially the ones "earned" by athletes. Further, college tuition has been inflated to absurd levels. I would much prefer the money. They would get the other stuff anyway.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:25 am to
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Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Do people even know the history of the NCAA anymore?


The NCAA is a monopoly. Monopolies by their very nature are corrupt.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Do walk ons and scrubs and women's polo players get as much as the starting point gaurd?



Yes, same amount, whomever is on the team, practice squad, walk ons whatever
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10560 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:31 am to
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Technically the benefits a college athlete recieves is equivalent to about $80k in taxable income once you throw in the personal training, food / nutritional supplements, tutors, and clothes.


Yeah, it really is laughable hearing their arguments for payment. If you don't want your likeness marketed, don't accept a full ride scholarship. It's simple really.

With that said, I would be in favor for a monthly stipend, comparable to what a part time job would pay.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:35 am to
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It made nearly 1B USD last year 84% of which came from March Madness. (That actually surprised me)


March Madness is pretty much the only thing that the NCAA controls.

Also, the money gets redistributed to pay for athletic expenses for schools.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6742 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:35 am to
Most athletic departments aren't making much if any money, especially if you take away state subsidies. These programs would have to raise tuition or cut other sports to pay the players. Its not just the small schools either. link I see UT, UGA and AU all losing money if you take away the subsidies.
Posted by ejohns74
Member since Aug 2013
132 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:56 am to
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Yes, same amount, whomever is on the team, practice squad, walk ons whatever


if you are granting "walk-ons" a stipend for playing a sport, is that not a form of scholarship and couldn't programs abuse that option?
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:33 am to
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quote:I think the time that the money made from it be distributed to the athletes who make it possible is long over due. Hell will literally freeze over long before the U.S. Department of Education ever allows this to happen.



They don't have that authority
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