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Qb position for the next few years could really hold Bama back
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:46 am
From reaching the max potential. If Sims is the guy this year, which is fine if he's the best that means next year we'll see a new starter. If that is Coker then again in 16 we'll have a new starter.
I would really rather have one of the younger QBs step up and win the job and be the man for several years. Than have to break in a new Qb every year. I understand that you go with the guy who can better help you win now but surely Bateman or Cornwell have the skill set that could do that now as well as Sims/Coker.
I guess that's part of the reason some want Coker to win the job because he has two years left vs the 1 that Sims has left.
That's the one area that CNS doesn't seem to be able to get experienced depth, seems like there were many opportunities to let back ups play more last year but he never made the switch early in the blow out games.
I would really rather have one of the younger QBs step up and win the job and be the man for several years. Than have to break in a new Qb every year. I understand that you go with the guy who can better help you win now but surely Bateman or Cornwell have the skill set that could do that now as well as Sims/Coker.
I guess that's part of the reason some want Coker to win the job because he has two years left vs the 1 that Sims has left.
That's the one area that CNS doesn't seem to be able to get experienced depth, seems like there were many opportunities to let back ups play more last year but he never made the switch early in the blow out games.
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:49 am to spacewrangler
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Than have to break in a new Qb every year
Last two won a national title.
Mccarron did not accomplish this feat as a 3rd year starting senior quarterback but did as a first year starting sophomore. Same can be said for Mcelroy
I think "breaking in a new QB" has proven time and time again recently to be a meaningless metric. Manziel, Winston, Bradford, Mccarron, Newton, Marshall...I mean just look around
I agree that in theory you would rather have a guy settle in and keep the job for 2-3 years as opposed to 1, but it's not someting I think we can point to as "holding us back"
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:56 am to spacewrangler
Bama will contend for titles every year Saban is there. QB position will be fine, this year and in the future.
Saban has never played backups early in games in order to develop depth, doubt he changes that anytime soon.
Saban has never played backups early in games in order to develop depth, doubt he changes that anytime soon.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:59 am to spacewrangler
What team has experienced depth at QB? Usually the only way that happens is due to injury and we've been fortunate to not have that issue
Bateman had every opportunity to win the starting QB job this year. He didn't. I'm a Bateman fan but if he's going to play he's going to have to step up and earn it not have it given to him because he's young.
Bateman had every opportunity to win the starting QB job this year. He didn't. I'm a Bateman fan but if he's going to play he's going to have to step up and earn it not have it given to him because he's young.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:08 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Manziel, Winston, Bradford, Mccarron, Newton, Marshall..
None of those QBs were career back ups getting the job mostly due to seniority. Plus, you listed, what, 4 Heisman QBs which we all know that neither Sims nor Coker are of that caliber of QBs.
Sure we've done great with first time starters but we had insane defense those years, not saying we don't have that now or won't in the future. I would prefer not to need to break in a new Qb each year for the next 3 years in a row.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:09 am to sarc
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step up and earn it not have it given to him because he's young.
Which is exactly what I said in my post. I wish one of the young guys would step up and win the job.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:21 am to spacewrangler
We'll be fine. Besides, that 2016 battle is gonna be something special.
RS Sophomore David Cornwell vs RS Freshman Blake Barnett
If Bateman sticks around, he'll be a RS Junior. I hope he sticks around, he's gonna be really good too.
RS Sophomore David Cornwell vs RS Freshman Blake Barnett
If Bateman sticks around, he'll be a RS Junior. I hope he sticks around, he's gonna be really good too.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:03 pm to spacewrangler
No offense, but you're a stupid a-hole.
I'm kidding, but I think you're whole thought process is silly.
I'm kidding, but I think you're whole thought process is silly.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:35 pm to spacewrangler
I happen to agree. I don't think the mentality that "We won with new QB's before, therefore we will win with new QBs in the future" is something we should be betting on. As I said in the other thread about Sims/Coker, going forward I don't think you can have a National Championship winning team with a QB that can't make plays. The offenses in the SEC are putting so much stress on the defenses right now that you have to have an offense that can score points. If you have a QB that doesn't put you in position for that, you're in trouble. The QB position can't be average and it absolutely can't be a liability. I don't think we could survive this year if either Sims or Coker has a mid-season slump similar to McElroy in 2009.
If you ask me, Alabama is way overdue for a true playmaker at QB.
If you ask me, Alabama is way overdue for a true playmaker at QB.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:48 pm to FairhopeTider
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"We won with new QB's before, therefore we will win with new QBs in the future" is something we should be betting on
it's not something we should bet against either. Yea, it's ideal that a younger player win the job, but the guy best equipped to do the job right is the one I want playing. Don't really care how old he is. If Sims is an B+ to Coker's B-then I'd rather Sims be back there.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:53 pm to spacewrangler
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None of those QBs were career back ups getting the job mostly due to seniority.
Greg McElroy was.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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it's not something we should bet against either. Yea, it's ideal that a younger player win the job, but the guy best equipped to do the job right is the one I want playing. Don't really care how old he is. If Sims is an B+ to Coker's B-then I'd rather Sims be back there
I agree. The best player should play and if that happens to be a first year player, then it is what it is. First year players now are a different mold than first year players in the past. They come in a little more ready to play. I guess my criticism is at the mentatlity that we'll be fine because its simply worked out for us in the past.
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