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Is Nick Saban the Best Recruiter of All-Time???
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:23 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:23 am
Giving it a raw look (average team rankings score for the 2011-14 cycles), here are the top 10 teams in recruiting over the past four cycles, according to 247Sports team rankings, which exclusively uses 247Sports Composite rankings to calculate the score, which basically gives you the consensus of the entire recruiting industry. ??It’s no surprise which team is No. 1.
1. Alabama- 312.07 four-cycle average
2. Ohio State- 289.73
3. Florida State- 283.35
4. Florida- 275.74
5. LSU- 275.24
6. Georgia- 270.99
7. USC- 268.08
8. Auburn- 267.53
9. Notre Dame- 264.70
10. Texas- 263.37??
Only four classes during this stretch have totaled more than 300 points. Alabama 2014 (319.53), Alabama 2013 (319.48), Alabama 2012 (310.89), Ohio State 2013 (303.28).??Texas A&M, which has the No. 2 class in the country for 2015 (not included here), has a three-cycle average of 263.88, which would put the Aggies in the top 10. ??
Similarly, Michigan has a three-cycle average of 266.20- which would place the Wolverines in the top 10 if you take away the 2011 cycle.??Here are the top 10 individual classes during that span, numerically.
1. Alabama (2014)- 319.53
2. Alabama (2013)- 319.48
3. Alabama (2012)- 310.89
4. Ohio State (2013)- 303.28
5. LSU (2014)- 298.80
6. Alabama (2011)- 298.39
7. Ohio State (2014)- 296.06
8. Texas (2012)- 295.80
9. Florida (2013)- 291.51
10. Michigan (2013)- 289.17
He definitely is over the past 4 years.
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Im an AUb, but got to respect the mans ability to get young men.
1. Alabama- 312.07 four-cycle average
2. Ohio State- 289.73
3. Florida State- 283.35
4. Florida- 275.74
5. LSU- 275.24
6. Georgia- 270.99
7. USC- 268.08
8. Auburn- 267.53
9. Notre Dame- 264.70
10. Texas- 263.37??
Only four classes during this stretch have totaled more than 300 points. Alabama 2014 (319.53), Alabama 2013 (319.48), Alabama 2012 (310.89), Ohio State 2013 (303.28).??Texas A&M, which has the No. 2 class in the country for 2015 (not included here), has a three-cycle average of 263.88, which would put the Aggies in the top 10. ??
Similarly, Michigan has a three-cycle average of 266.20- which would place the Wolverines in the top 10 if you take away the 2011 cycle.??Here are the top 10 individual classes during that span, numerically.
1. Alabama (2014)- 319.53
2. Alabama (2013)- 319.48
3. Alabama (2012)- 310.89
4. Ohio State (2013)- 303.28
5. LSU (2014)- 298.80
6. Alabama (2011)- 298.39
7. Ohio State (2014)- 296.06
8. Texas (2012)- 295.80
9. Florida (2013)- 291.51
10. Michigan (2013)- 289.17
He definitely is over the past 4 years.
247
Im an AUb, but got to respect the mans ability to get young men.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:24 am to Wardamnbulldog
yes.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:28 am to brucevilanch
Funny how a 48 year old journeymen with a hot head reputation found so much success at LSU before going to Alabama. He was not a good recruiter or coach pre LSU.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:28 am to brucevilanch
I think Bobby Bowden in his day was better.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:30 am to Wardamnbulldog
That 2011 class was really weak
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:31 am to Wardamnbulldog
Yes.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:31 am to Wardamnbulldog
Ask the recruiting board
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 am to Paul Allen
his record and recruiting classes actually progressed pretty evenly year to year. if you were to create a chart, it would create an almost perfect incline plateau-ing around 2008
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 am to sjmabry
Not saying Bama hasn't had the best classes, but points are skewed when you have a Bama alumnus that owns the site that rates the players.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 am to sjmabry
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I think Bobby Bowden in his day was better
It was amazing how so many 5 stars would just wake up on signing day and suddenly pick FSU.
Outside of maybe 2-3 classes, Saban has had the top recruiting class in the nation dating back to the early 2000s. That's amazing no matter where you are.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 am to Rig
quote:not talking about recruits... im talking about a coaches ability to recruit...
Ask the recruiting board
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Not saying Bama hasn't had the best classes, but points are skewed when you have a Bama alumnus that owns the site that rates the players.
does a bama alumn own all of them because 247 is an avg
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 am to Restomod
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:35 am to Restomod
quote:
Not saying Bama hasn't had the best classes, but points are skewed when you have a Bama alumnus that owns the site that rates the players.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:38 am to Paul Allen
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He was not a good recruiter or coach pre LSU.
You're joking, right? If he was not a good coach pre LSU, then why the hell did you guys hire him?
As for the not a good recruiter part, I think Plaxico Burress, Julian Peterson, and Charles Rogers would disagree. He's always been a good recruiter and, like any other committed professional, he continued to get better at it over time.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:38 am to Wardamnbulldog
Saban is right there with Pete Carroll in terms of pulling top talent. I give those two the nod over previous coaches because the competition for top recruits is much more highly contested now than even in the 90s. Both dominated their respective regions, and both were able to go well out of their recruiting area to pull players. I was always amazed at how many kids from Illinois, Ohio, New Jersey, etc. traveled across the country to play for a stacked USC team. I think USC pulled eight 5* recruits in a cycle once.
If I had to pick, I'd give Saban a slight edge because USC has more of a natural appeal to recruits considering the school's academic standing and the allure of Los Angeles.
If I had to pick, I'd give Saban a slight edge because USC has more of a natural appeal to recruits considering the school's academic standing and the allure of Los Angeles.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:39 am to Wardamnbulldog
24/7 and Rivals..or at least used to.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:40 am to Wardamnbulldog
yes
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:41 am to Restomod
quote:
but points are skewed when you have a Bama alumnus that owns the site that rates the players.
Shannon Terry is:
A) not a Bama alumnus,
B) not the sole owner of 247 Sports, and
C) has no ownership stake in Rivals, Scout, or ESPN, which also rank Bama's classes very high.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:41 am to AlexLSU
Saban is a great recruiter. His numbers back it up. However, like every other coach in the world, he can only be that way at a place like Bama, LSU, Florida, Ohio St, etc. If Nick was the head coach of Kentucky, West Virginia, Rutgers or Utah, he wouldn't be bringing in #1 classes every year.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:43 am to Wardamnbulldog
Yes
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