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Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:24 pm
Please put the following:
1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
2. How South Carolina can/will win
3. How A&M can/will win
4. Result and margin prediction
1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
2. How South Carolina can/will win
3. How A&M can/will win
4. Result and margin prediction
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Here's mine.
1. Keys to the game/key matchups
A&M receivers and QB vs. South Carolina secondary
South Carolina run game vs. A&M front seven
Both teams have key injuries in their weakest areas (A&M's starting SAM is out with a broken clavicle, South Carolina is a MASH unit in the secondary).
2. How South Carolina can win: Simply put, control the game on the ground. If Dylan Thompson is forced to pass to win, he won't have Connor Shaw to bail them out (see the game at Missouri as exhibit A). A&M is going to get their points. If it's a shootout, the gamecocks may not have the firepower to keep up.
3. How A&M can win: Simply put, show significant improvement in the front seven. If Myles Garrett and Zaycovan Henderson are as good as advertised, it will take significant pressure off of the secondary, who was the only bright spot in last year's defense. A Kevin Sumlin offense will get their points. Get enough stops and the offense will do its part.
4. I don't think A&M is good enough to win this game yet...but it will be a lot closer than people think. I'll pick 35-31 South Carolina.
1. Keys to the game/key matchups
A&M receivers and QB vs. South Carolina secondary
South Carolina run game vs. A&M front seven
Both teams have key injuries in their weakest areas (A&M's starting SAM is out with a broken clavicle, South Carolina is a MASH unit in the secondary).
2. How South Carolina can win: Simply put, control the game on the ground. If Dylan Thompson is forced to pass to win, he won't have Connor Shaw to bail them out (see the game at Missouri as exhibit A). A&M is going to get their points. If it's a shootout, the gamecocks may not have the firepower to keep up.
3. How A&M can win: Simply put, show significant improvement in the front seven. If Myles Garrett and Zaycovan Henderson are as good as advertised, it will take significant pressure off of the secondary, who was the only bright spot in last year's defense. A Kevin Sumlin offense will get their points. Get enough stops and the offense will do its part.
4. I don't think A&M is good enough to win this game yet...but it will be a lot closer than people think. I'll pick 35-31 South Carolina.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The key for A&M is making Dylan Thompson try to beat them. The key for USC is to make him as minimal a factor as possible.
If USC is averaging 6+ YPC, nothing else really matters. If Thompson is forced to drop back on obvious second and third down passing situations then A&M has a chance to make some plays and win the turnover battle.
If USC is averaging 6+ YPC, nothing else really matters. If Thompson is forced to drop back on obvious second and third down passing situations then A&M has a chance to make some plays and win the turnover battle.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:34 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
1. USCe offense vs aTm sorry d since USCe d will stop aTm offense
2. Get 1-2 stops and they win vs aTm bad d
3. Hope hill is better than Johnny and your d is a lot better
4. USCe wins in a blow out
2. Get 1-2 stops and they win vs aTm bad d
3. Hope hill is better than Johnny and your d is a lot better
4. USCe wins in a blow out
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:34 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
1. OBC vs Rumlin
if Sumlin has more than 5 old fashioneds, properly muddled before the game, it could be a close one.
2. By showing up
3. You guys will win. Halftime. oh wait, you cant afford to bring your band, you lose halftime also.
4. 77 to 3 Cocks
if Sumlin has more than 5 old fashioneds, properly muddled before the game, it could be a close one.
2. By showing up
3. You guys will win. Halftime. oh wait, you cant afford to bring your band, you lose halftime also.
4. 77 to 3 Cocks
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:37 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Chuck Oliver yesterday said it best on the radio in context of UGA playing Usc in week two.... But i think it also applies to yall in week one.
Dont be afraid of Dylan Thompson.
Don't be afraid of their receivers.
Don't be afraid of their defensive line, linebackers, or secondary.
Be afraid of Mike Davis and Brandon Wilds behind a big-dicked experienced offensive line.
Dont be afraid of Dylan Thompson.
Don't be afraid of their receivers.
Don't be afraid of their defensive line, linebackers, or secondary.
Be afraid of Mike Davis and Brandon Wilds behind a big-dicked experienced offensive line.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:37 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
1. How do both offenses look early. Aggie breaking in new starter on the road. SC has started slow in past home openers. However with a good running game and o line I think SC is less likely to struggle especially since it is at home.
Look to see whose defense steps up. A&M was a dumpster fire last year and SC lost some key defensive linemen. Linebackers will be a strength. Secondary will be thin.
SC wins if they control the clock and keep a&m defense on the field. Also look for a few picks by the linebackers to give them short field position.
A&M wins if our offense turns the ball over multiple times and their Qb and receivers exploit the inexperience at corner.
I predict we win 28-14. Expect a heavy dose of mike Davis with some play action mixed in
Look to see whose defense steps up. A&M was a dumpster fire last year and SC lost some key defensive linemen. Linebackers will be a strength. Secondary will be thin.
SC wins if they control the clock and keep a&m defense on the field. Also look for a few picks by the linebackers to give them short field position.
A&M wins if our offense turns the ball over multiple times and their Qb and receivers exploit the inexperience at corner.
I predict we win 28-14. Expect a heavy dose of mike Davis with some play action mixed in
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:37 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I'm not informed enough to do all that, but Spurrier is good at game planning his offense when he has time to prepare. Some seasons he holds back for an weak opening opponent and plans ahead for Georgia, but don't think he'll do that this year this unless he has a big lead. USCe will score some points.
My guess is USCe defense will stack the box and make Sumlin either run into that or test his new qb under pressure. Key matchup is how well your OL and RB's block vs USC's front seven.
With a new qb in a hostile environment, it's a tough matchup for TAMU.
My guess is USCe defense will stack the box and make Sumlin either run into that or test his new qb under pressure. Key matchup is how well your OL and RB's block vs USC's front seven.
With a new qb in a hostile environment, it's a tough matchup for TAMU.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:38 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
i'm not going to answer all those questions but i think it will be a good game. Edge goes to USEe though as they are playing at home against a QB making his first start ever.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
agree with drac ... too many key players gone from both squads to even begin to predict the outcome ...
just want a good, solid sec game by the 2 little sisters to get the big boys ready for saturday ...
just want a good, solid sec game by the 2 little sisters to get the big boys ready for saturday ...
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:40 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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South Carolina is a MASH unit in the secondary
No we aren't.
Where are you aggies getting info on the USC secondary?
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1. Keys to the game/key matchups
USC's dline/linebackers vs aTm's oline.
USC will want to get pressure on Kenny Hill early and will probably have to bring linebackers to do so. Getting pressure on the QB will help the secondary out.
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2. How South Carolina can win
Ball control. Running Mike Davis behind our mammoth oline against aTm's bad defense. Using play action to go deep after aTm starts stacking the box
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3. How A&M can win
If aTm's defense can force turnovers and convert on those opportunities.
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4. Result and margin prediction
52-28 USC wins
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:44 pm to tiderider
1. As mentioned, A&M has to find a run defense to have a shot. Turnovers might keep it close
2. South Carolina is likely to just bulldoze A&M, control the clock, and put the pressure on A&M to trade TDs.
3. Turnovers would help a lot. Sometimes Spurrier teams do not start the year particularly sharp. Getting after the QB would help take Carolina out of favorable down and distances, limiting their ability to run the football.
4. I don't know enough about A&M's offensive production, to feel confident that they'll put up enough points to keep it competitive. I'll go USCE 27-19, though USCE by 20 would not surprise me.
2. South Carolina is likely to just bulldoze A&M, control the clock, and put the pressure on A&M to trade TDs.
3. Turnovers would help a lot. Sometimes Spurrier teams do not start the year particularly sharp. Getting after the QB would help take Carolina out of favorable down and distances, limiting their ability to run the football.
4. I don't know enough about A&M's offensive production, to feel confident that they'll put up enough points to keep it competitive. I'll go USCE 27-19, though USCE by 20 would not surprise me.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
It's all on A&Ms offense. South Carolina can't score in bunches with this team. You can mark them down for 24-34 against us.
If our offense comes out clicking we can score 40 on anybody. But it's game one with a new QB and our OL has 4 guys at new positions (every where but C) so they will need time to gel. So I don't think we'll be clicking. We will score closer to 24-28.
We'll need a turnover or a big ST play to win likely.
If our offense comes out clicking we can score 40 on anybody. But it's game one with a new QB and our OL has 4 guys at new positions (every where but C) so they will need time to gel. So I don't think we'll be clicking. We will score closer to 24-28.
We'll need a turnover or a big ST play to win likely.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
SCAR's goin in dry
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:46 pm to tigerbacon
I don't really get the blowout talk.
In 2011, USC trailed East Carolina by ten at halftime in their opener before rallying due to five second half ECU turnovers.
In 2012, they almost lost to Vanderbilt in their opener before stopping them on downs in scoring territory with a minute to go.
In 2013, they jumped out to a quick 17-0 lead over UNC and then proceeded to get outplayed and outgained over the last 45 minutes. USC had only 181 yards and 7 first downs over the final three quarters, 75 of which came on one play.
Now say what you want about A&M, but we are better than all three of those teams. USC isn't known for their strong opening performances and are noted to often look very lethargic out of the gate.
Additionally, in 26 games as A&M's HC Sumlin has lost by more than 7 points exactly once.
USC will probably win, but there is NOTHNG to indicate this will be a blowout.
In 2011, USC trailed East Carolina by ten at halftime in their opener before rallying due to five second half ECU turnovers.
In 2012, they almost lost to Vanderbilt in their opener before stopping them on downs in scoring territory with a minute to go.
In 2013, they jumped out to a quick 17-0 lead over UNC and then proceeded to get outplayed and outgained over the last 45 minutes. USC had only 181 yards and 7 first downs over the final three quarters, 75 of which came on one play.
Now say what you want about A&M, but we are better than all three of those teams. USC isn't known for their strong opening performances and are noted to often look very lethargic out of the gate.
Additionally, in 26 games as A&M's HC Sumlin has lost by more than 7 points exactly once.
USC will probably win, but there is NOTHNG to indicate this will be a blowout.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:48 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Without reading anyone else's.
1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
To me the biggest and most obvious is our front 7 vs their run game. We gave up ungodly ypc. They like the smash their big boy up the middle.
2. How South Carolina can/will win
They win by scoring way too often against a bad D and taking advantage of a inexperienced QB. It wouldn't be shocking if Hill threw a few picks in a hostel environment.
3. How A&M can/will win
We win by running Sumlins O and lighting up the scoreboard. A few key stops or turnovers (doesn't have to be a full 60 min) from the D would be nice too.
4. Result and margin prediction
I'm predicting USCe 35-28. We cover and I win some money.
1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
To me the biggest and most obvious is our front 7 vs their run game. We gave up ungodly ypc. They like the smash their big boy up the middle.
2. How South Carolina can/will win
They win by scoring way too often against a bad D and taking advantage of a inexperienced QB. It wouldn't be shocking if Hill threw a few picks in a hostel environment.
3. How A&M can/will win
We win by running Sumlins O and lighting up the scoreboard. A few key stops or turnovers (doesn't have to be a full 60 min) from the D would be nice too.
4. Result and margin prediction
I'm predicting USCe 35-28. We cover and I win some money.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:52 pm to jackmanusc
Looking at HS stats for Johnny Manziel and Kenny Hill:
Johnny Manziel (Tivy High School - 3 seasons)
Passing: 513-816-15, 7500 yards, 75 TD
Rushing: 525 carries for 4038 yards and 78 TD
Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M - 3 seasons/1 RS year)
Passing: 595-863-22, 7820 yards, 63 TD
Rushing: 345 carries for 2169 yards and 30 TD
Kenny Hill (Southlake Carroll H.S. - 3 seasons)
Passing: 604-906-17, 8144 yards, 67 TD
Rushing: 592 carries for 3255 yards and 64 TD
Kenny Hill (Texas A&M - 1 season/4 games)
Passing: 16-22-0, 183 yards, 1 TD
Rushing: 7 carries, 39 yards
Johnny Manziel (Tivy High School - 3 seasons)
Passing: 513-816-15, 7500 yards, 75 TD
Rushing: 525 carries for 4038 yards and 78 TD
Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M - 3 seasons/1 RS year)
Passing: 595-863-22, 7820 yards, 63 TD
Rushing: 345 carries for 2169 yards and 30 TD
Kenny Hill (Southlake Carroll H.S. - 3 seasons)
Passing: 604-906-17, 8144 yards, 67 TD
Rushing: 592 carries for 3255 yards and 64 TD
Kenny Hill (Texas A&M - 1 season/4 games)
Passing: 16-22-0, 183 yards, 1 TD
Rushing: 7 carries, 39 yards
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
I believe USCe will be able to pressure the QB and prevent the pass (due to pressuring the QB) better than A&M will be able to stop the run.
2. How South Carolina can/will win
By getting pressure on the QB and solidifying their running game immediately. Do not let A&M get a lead.
3. How A&M can/will win
Grabbing a 10-14 point lead before the half. Spurrier will probably panic and go away from the run more than how he game planned.
4. Result and margin prediction
34-24 USCe wins
I believe USCe will be able to pressure the QB and prevent the pass (due to pressuring the QB) better than A&M will be able to stop the run.
2. How South Carolina can/will win
By getting pressure on the QB and solidifying their running game immediately. Do not let A&M get a lead.
3. How A&M can/will win
Grabbing a 10-14 point lead before the half. Spurrier will probably panic and go away from the run more than how he game planned.
4. Result and margin prediction
34-24 USCe wins
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:53 pm to Cockopotamus
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USC will want to get pressure on Kenny Hill early and will probably have to bring linebackers to do so. Getting pressure on the QB will help the secondary out.
Blitzing is the worst thing you can do against an Air Raid offense.
You want to be able to get pressure and stop the run with your front 4 and sit back in coverage, making the offense slowly work down the field and waiting for a mistake. The ball comes out too quick for blitzing to be regularly worth it, and it forces corners and safeties to make one on one tackles against better athletes to prevent huge gains.
The only teams that have had defensive success against A&M are the ones who did the above (LSU and Florida notably). Auburn tried and it worked out in the end when their deep D-line wore us out.
Teams that have tried to blitz us (Bama, Arkansas, MSU, Ole Miss this year, etc.) have gotten torched.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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1. Keys to the game/Key matchups
Ball control. I anticipate this to be a high schooling game, and turnover can make a huge difference. Especially when you consider that both teams are replacing a multi year starter.
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2. How South Carolina can/will win
Control the clock and keep their offense balanced. They should have an advantage in the running game with Mike Davis against A&M front seven of mostly second rate Louisiana players LSU passed on.
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3. How A&M can/will win
They could be able to throw the ball well. SC lost Both CBS and DE. Hopefully their new QB is ready to go.
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4. Result and margin prediction
I predict SC will win this game. The deciding factor is that Thompson has a lot more experience because he has had several opportunities to fill in for Connor Shaw because Shaw was a Fragile bitch.
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