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Is Kevin Sumlin best in the SEC at QB development?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:25 pm
Case Keenum was a 2-star QB who only had 2 "major" offers, Houston and Baylor. Sumlin made him a well known College QB the 1st year Sumlin got there. Johnny Manziel was a 3-star with few offers to play QB. He was a star Sumlin's first year. Came out of nowhere. I see no reason he won't do the same with the much higher rated talent he has now. It seems Keenum and Manziel got all the credit, for some reason.
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:29 pm to NickSabanRules
Is a good NFL career a result of QB development at the college level? There are a lot of explosive QBs at the collegiate level due to the offense that is ran. The QBs at Texas Tech used to always put up eye popping numbers, yet were unheard of at the next level.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:31 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I understand. They're teaching them to play QB in their system at the collegiate level. That's what they're coaching them up for.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:32 pm to NickSabanRules
Lol. No.
QB's thrive in his offense. You could probably go and throw for 2000 yards in that offense.
QB's thrive in his offense. You could probably go and throw for 2000 yards in that offense.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:34 pm to RecruitingReb
No sir, no ma'am...
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:34 pm to NickSabanRules
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Is Kevin Sumlin best in the SEC at QB development?
Negatory. Richt and Bobo.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:35 pm to RecruitingReb
Keenum and JFF are both in the NFL.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:36 pm to NickSabanRules
No, since Richt is the best in the country.
-Charlie Ward- heisman
-Chris Weinke- heisman
-Greene- set all time NCAA wins record
-Shock- won SEC POY in only year as starter
-Staff- #1 overall NFL draft pick
-Murray- set multiple SEC and NCAA records
-Charlie Ward- heisman
-Chris Weinke- heisman
-Greene- set all time NCAA wins record
-Shock- won SEC POY in only year as starter
-Staff- #1 overall NFL draft pick
-Murray- set multiple SEC and NCAA records
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:37 pm to NickSabanRules
So what. Are either one a starter? No.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:37 pm to RecruitingReb
I watched Manziel scrimmage in the spring when Sumlin first got to College Station.
If you had told me that Manziel was going to win the Heisman trophy I would have asked you what you were smoking.
I have never seen a player make as much progress in one offseason as Manziel did. You have to give the credit to Sumlin.
If you had told me that Manziel was going to win the Heisman trophy I would have asked you what you were smoking.
I have never seen a player make as much progress in one offseason as Manziel did. You have to give the credit to Sumlin.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:38 pm to WG_Dawg
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-Charlie Ward- heisman
-Chris Weinke- heisman
-Greene- set all time NCAA wins record
-Shock- won SEC POY in only year as starter
-Staff- #1 overall NFL draft pick
-Murray- set multiple SEC and NCAA records
Weren't all of those highly recruited QB's coming out of HS?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:41 pm to NickSabanRules
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Weren't all of those highly recruited QB's coming out of HS?
Most of them, yea. Greene was a 3* type. What's you're point?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:45 pm to gatorhata9
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Most of them, yea. Greene was a 3* type. What's you're point?
The point is, QB development, with guys nobody thought much of as QB's coming out of HS. If Sumlin does it again this year, he will have made a strong case for being the best in College for QB development.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:47 pm to NickSabanRules
Remains to be seen--he probably needs more data points.
But he's damn good at it, that's for sure.
That certainly doesn't take anything away from other coaches who have similar talents.
But he's damn good at it, that's for sure.
That certainly doesn't take anything away from other coaches who have similar talents.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:49 pm to NickSabanRules
yes
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:50 pm to WG_Dawg
Damn hard to argue with that Richt/Bobo list.
But Sumlin has gotten a lot out of his unheralded guys. Manziel was definitely talented in HS. But now, Sumlin is getting the highly touted guys. We'll see if the game evolves..
But Sumlin has gotten a lot out of his unheralded guys. Manziel was definitely talented in HS. But now, Sumlin is getting the highly touted guys. We'll see if the game evolves..
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:52 pm to WG_Dawg
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No, since Richt is the best in the country.
-Charlie Ward- heisman
-Chris Weinke- heisman
-Greene- set all time NCAA wins record
-Shock- won SEC POY in only year as starter
-Staff- #1 overall NFL draft pick
-Murray- set multiple SEC and NCAA records
frickin' homer, get real...
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:53 pm to NickSabanRules
We're about to find out for his SEC tenure.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:12 pm to NickSabanRules
No.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:27 pm to NickSabanRules
Uh, no.
Sumlin recruited neither Keenum nor Manziel. Keenum was brought in by Art Briles/Dana Holgorsen, Manziel by Mike Sherman. He inherited Briles' system in Houston and then brought Kingsbury, a Briles hire, to TAMU with him
This season will actually be a first for Sumlin in that he is captaining the ship of an offense with a QB that he recruited plus and an OC he hired all by himself.
Sumlin recruited neither Keenum nor Manziel. Keenum was brought in by Art Briles/Dana Holgorsen, Manziel by Mike Sherman. He inherited Briles' system in Houston and then brought Kingsbury, a Briles hire, to TAMU with him
This season will actually be a first for Sumlin in that he is captaining the ship of an offense with a QB that he recruited plus and an OC he hired all by himself.
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