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Urban Meyer: Cam Newton Didn't Have "It" Factor at QB (video link)

Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:48 pm
According to Cam, after his unfortunate incident at UF his father and he had a conversation with Urban in which he wished him well but advised him that his future might be at another position as he did not possess the "it" factor to play QB.

Cam then vowed to make Urban eat his words. Wonder how that turned out

You can check out the full video here. It's part of Cam's 6 part web series sponsored by Under Armour
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 2:54 pm
Posted by socraticsilence
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:49 pm to
Well Judging by his Heisman and National Title winning QBs maybe Meyer thinks the "It" factor for a QB is integrity. You'd have to ask him if he thinks Winston has "it".
Posted by TabledTiger
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
Urban's eyes were still blinded by Tebow's Jesus Juice to see Cam for the dynamic playmaker that he was.
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Well Judging by his Heisman and National Title winning QBs maybe Meyer thinks the "It" factor for a QB is integrity. You'd have to ask him if he thinks Winston has "it".






Just because he had what ended up being a Jesus Christ clone at QB doesn't mean it was Urban's character judgement that led to him being at UF.
Posted by auzach91
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:52 pm to
oh urban
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:53 pm to
Fake heart attack board.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
How do you think Hernandez does in jail? Does he run shite? Is he raped constantly? Is he in Gen pop or Iso?
Posted by socraticsilence
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:55 pm to
I'm sorry did Hernandez play QB. Besides Urban's problem with players is that he was too trusting and too forgiving probably because he came in as a disciplinarian and a hard arse and then the Avery Atkins tragedy happened and because he cares so much (seriously, the guys problem is that he can't detach if Kick 6 happened to Meyer he'd play it over and over and over again on a 35mm reel like Ray Finkle in Ace Ventura) he kept player he probably shouldn't have because he didn't want to lose another one.

People who mention Hernandez without also bringing up Atkins don't get it.


Additionally, can someone freaking tell me why Hernandez reflects badly on Meyer and UF where there's no evidence committed any murders or really any crimes other than a fight or two, but not on say Bill Belicheck and the Patriots who not only drafted him but also after having him for a couple of years and presumably knowing a little more about him decided to re-sign him for tens of millions of dollars.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:57 pm to
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How do you think Hernandez does in jail? Does he run shite? Is he raped constantly? Is he in Gen pop or Iso?



I think he's probably Alpha there. Honestly, he's probably not hating it too much. That seems to be the environment he wanted to be a part of.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:58 pm to
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the Avery Atkins tragedy happened and because he cares so much


No one knows about this and even if they do they don't want to take the time to understand it.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:59 pm to
Well at least we know now why Urban cried and whined throughout the entire 2010 season. He had to watch the guy he kicked to the curb take over the CFB world

We also now know why Cam really left Florida. Urban's history has shown he wouldn't have let a minor laptop theft be the reason he kicked Cam off the team. He likely believed he had better options than Cam and could afford to show him the door
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:00 pm to
Cam cheated. He was gone. It worked for you guys. I'm not sure why you all get mad about it.
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm sorry did Hernandez play QB.


Wow, you missed the point, didn't you?

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Besides Urban's problem with players is that he was too trusting and too forgiving probably because he came in as a disciplinarian and a hard arse and then the Avery Atkins tragedy happened and because he cares so much


Well that's as good an excuse as any. I'd take your word for it if he weren't at Ohio State now. I call BS. He saw recruiting mishaps, a tough conference, and a college great at QB heading to the NFL. He bitched out.
Posted by socraticsilence
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:03 pm to
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the Avery Atkins tragedy happened and because he cares so much


No one knows about this and even if they do they don't want to take the time to understand it.


Its honestly a pretty huge factor, look at Meyer's willingness to crack down on players before Avery died and then afterwards its like after that he wasn't going to lose a player if he thought he had any chance at all to reach them, even if it made him look bad and he took a hit in reputation-- hell, it wasn't even (or mostly) on the field play-- he gave Ronnie Wilson multiple chances despite the fact he never (or barely) cracked the two-deep. The only thing Meyer had essentially a zero tolerance policy on post Atkins was physical violence against women.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:04 pm to
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Well at least we know now why Urban cried and whined throughout the entire 2010 season. He had to watch the guy he kicked to the curb take over the CFB world

We also now know why Cam really left Florida. Urban's history has shown he wouldn't have let a minor laptop theft be the reason he kicked Cam off the team. He likely believed he had better options than Cam and could afford to show him the door


Well that and Cam was about to be expelled from the Academic side of the University for cheating/plagarism.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:06 pm to
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I'm sorry did Hernandez play QB.


Wow, you missed the point, didn't you?

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Besides Urban's problem with players is that he was too trusting and too forgiving probably because he came in as a disciplinarian and a hard arse and then the Avery Atkins tragedy happened and because he cares so much


Well that's as good an excuse as any. I'd take your word for it if he weren't at Ohio State now. I call BS. He saw recruiting mishaps, a tough conference, and a college great at QB heading to the NFL. He bitched out.


He's a junkie, junkie's aren't rational about their addictions, he thought he could quit football, hell in 2010 he tried coaching part time, but he just couldn't do it, he took some time off and probably thinks he's okay now but watch give it 5 years he'll probably burn out again.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:08 pm to
I guess Richt wasn't the only one who thought he was a TE
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:18 pm to
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We also now know why Cam really left Florida. Urban's history has shown he wouldn't have let a minor laptop theft be the reason he kicked Cam off the team. He likely believed he had better options than Cam and could afford to show him the door
Laptop theft coupled with the academic issues may have left CUM feeling like he could replace CN with other options?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Cam cheated. He was gone. It worked for you guys. I'm not sure why you all get mad about it.


Probably because they are trying to reconstruct a new history of the situation that shines more favorable than the truth. The truth is he was a cheater and a thief. He chose UF over AU and only ended up at second chance qb-u because he was a cheater and thief. If he hadn't been a cheater and a thief he would have stayed at Florida. It is what it is but you can see how deep down that doesn't sit well with them. So they have to project something else and try to reposition the discussion.
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