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Was it wise to split the SEC Network with ESPN 50/50?

Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:13 pm
I understand why we partnered with ESPN. They provide credibility, promotion, and leverage when negotiating with providers. However, considering how successful the network has been so far, I wonder if we will regret giving ESPN 50% of profits? My understanding is the profits are split with ESPN 50/50 after costs are subtracted. It would make more sense if ESPN was willing to eat the costs and then split profits, but I don't think that is the case. Did we really need ESPN bad enough to give them half our profits?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68420 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:15 pm to
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Did we really need ESPN bad enough to give them half our profits?

We wouldn't have remotely close to the amount of providers we have now if it weren't for ESPN
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:15 pm to
ESPN is the reason we're going to be as successful as we are. 50-50 is fair.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:17 pm to
Yes it was wise
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:19 pm to
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ESPN is the reason we're going to be as successful as we are. 50-50 is fair.



It played a role, but I honestly think the main reason all the providers are picking it up is the fanatic demand by SEC fans.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:24 pm to
You're wrong.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:25 pm to
Yes, ESPN provided us with the staff, expertise, contacts, and start to finish production/distribution network that we had no expert knowledge for on this scale.

Maybe in 15 years we can do more ourselves and won't need them.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:26 pm to
Don't get greedy
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43952 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:26 pm to
Yes.
Look no further than the struggle the Pac-12 is experiencing by going it alone.
It's all good--and nothing is permanent.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:27 pm to
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Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:31 pm to
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Yes, ESPN provided us with the staff, expertise, contacts, and start to finish production/distribution network that we had no expert knowledge for on this scale.

Maybe in 15 years we can do more ourselves and won't need them.


Without ESPN we would have had a Jefferson-Pilot type network.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:35 pm to
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Maybe in 15 years we can do more ourselves and won't need them.



That's my point. It's a 20 year deal. In 5 or 10 years are we going to realize we never needed ESPN and they are taking half our profits?
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:37 pm to
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Yes.
Look no further than the struggle the Pac-12 is experiencing by going it alone.
It's all good--and nothing is permanent.





The demand for the Pac 12 network is minute compared to the hoards of SEC fans demanding the channel.
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
18748 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:38 pm to
ESPN has a ton of leverage. SEC fans do not. It was a good deal.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:40 pm to
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ESPN has a ton of leverage. SEC fans do not.


The minute Dish picked up the SEC Network, SEC fans had an immense amount of leverage. Every fan could call in demanding the channel while touting an alternative option if it was not available.

The Big Ten owns their network. Yes, the SEC Network will make more per customer, but that has more to do with demand than an ESPN partnership IMO.
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:41 pm to
I'm glad Slive doesn't take business pointers from you.
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:46 pm to
We don't know the details of deal yet. Splitting profits is just some media guys wild arse guess.

All we can say now is maybe they priced it a little too low.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

I'm glad Slive doesn't take business pointers from you.



I'm not privy to all the information he has about the deal, obviously. Slive is a great commissioner but he has made some terrible financial deals in the past. The SEC is getting robbed with its current deal with ESPN/CBS. Our current tv package is making about the same or less than the other Big 5 conference tv packages, despite how much more valuable our content is.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:49 pm to
I don't think the SEC could have pulled off this off by themselves?

How long is this deal for? I could see the SEC get away from ESPN down the road. Like 10 years or so.
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