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Will A&M's offensive production this year invalidate JFFs GOAT status?

Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:50 pm
When the Ags lead the SEC in total offense yet again this year, will that knock JFF out of GOAT SEC QB for you, since he's replaceable?

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Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:52 pm to
Cam Newton invalidates JFF as the GOAT
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:58 pm to
Yep. Aggies will fall off the map & Sumlin on the hot seat in 2 years
Posted by Cajun Ag
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:59 pm to
I'm going to say no - no one will have another season like JFF's 2012 campaign.

Last year will be a more even comparison to anyone else going forward - expect to see similar passing production to possibly better.

Johnny was such an out of the box player it won't be a true comparison going forward. Unless Kyler Murray is as extemporaneous as JFF. I think he'll play within the offense more. He's got great dual threat skills.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:59 pm to
Yea Cam is better than JFF in my opinion. But Cam didn't win it all on his own either, Fairley was essential to that title run down the stretch.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 5:59 pm to
Don't think that answers the question sport
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:00 pm to
I agree on 2012. He tore apart the SEC record books
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:01 pm to
Not to hate on Aggieland b/c you are one of the better Aggie posters, but Cam is tGOAT - he has the hardware and conference title while Johnny Nosecandy has merely a Twitter.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

When the Ags lead the SEC in total offense yet again this year, will that knock JFF out of GOAT SEC QB for you, since he's replaceable?


Who knows? One thing we do know is A&M needs to get their shite together on defense or seasons like 2013 will be a pretty regular occurrence.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:06 pm to
Sumlin will always be near or at the top in offensive production... JFF or no JFF...



...and near the bottom in defense.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:09 pm to
No, Manziel was electrifying due to his footwork, something Allen lacks. A&M will probably lead the league in offense like you say, but if Allen is sitting in the pocket dinking and dunking all day, it won't be as exciting as watching Manziel. You will still score a lot of points though.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:10 pm to
The question is flawed since it's clear CAM is SEC GOAT.

Hell, even Tebow got the hardware.

Any QB under Sumlin is going to put up ridiculous numbers, however not all of them will likely be the "social media whore" that is Johnny.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Yep. Aggies will fall off the map & Sumlin on the hot seat in 2 years



This.

A&M will be you know.....A&M
Posted by ztucke2
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:15 pm to
Cam is GOAT, and I'd probably put Tebow ahead too. Whatever A&M does from here on out will not taint Johnny's legacy, most can admit he was a phenomenal player.
Posted by geaux.home
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:19 pm to
JFF was the most exciting QBs to watch in SEC, but GOAT he was not.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Any QB under Sumlin is going to put up ridiculous numbers, however not all of them will likely be the "social media whore" that is Johnny.


Johnny's numbers weren't just ridiculous, they were the best two seasons in SEC history. And anyone who watched his games knows that Johnny wasn't a "system QB". Unless you mean "Johnny's system".

To be perfectly honest, we still really haven't seen how "Sumlin's system" will work in the SEC.
Posted by Cajun Ag
Friendswood TX
Member since Nov 2012
172 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:25 pm to
Y'all keep saying Cam but JFF had more yards passing in fewer games than Cam and more rushing TDs and almost as many total rushing yds in fewer games (higher per yard and per game averages). Also JFF was younger. I'll take JFF over Cam who played on a better overall team in their respective heisman seasons.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted by geaux.home
North Shore
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:33 pm to
Wait, JFF played in more games than Cam. Cam was only a starter for 1 season in the SEC.
Posted by EWE TIGER
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:07 pm to
JFF is not the GOAT SEC QB.

The Ags offense will be one of the best in the SEC every year that Sumlin is the coach, and the QB will put up big numbers. The Ags will typically end up with a similar record to the last two years.
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