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'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant — I'm going to have a baby,' and I shot her anyway
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:44 pm
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An 80-year-old man told NBC Channel 4 Wednesday that he shot and killed a pregnant woman who tried to rob him at his Long Beach home..
"She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'" the man, who was identified as Tom Greer, told the TV station.
He said he fired two rounds and that a man who was with her fled the scene. "I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said.
He said the couple tackled him and tried to ransack his home and take money from a safe. He said he shot the woman with a small .22-caliber revolver during the incident, which happened on Tuesday.
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"The lady didn't run as fast as the man, so I shot her in the back twice," Greer said. "She's dead ... but he got away."
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Self defense, gone too far? What say you?
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:48 pm to Alahunter
Does the responsibility lie on the woman for putting herself in an extremely dangerous situation while pregnant(if she was telling the truth)?
Or could the man have handled the situation more peacefully if his life wasn't actually in danger?
Or could the man have handled the situation more peacefully if his life wasn't actually in danger?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:50 pm to Alahunter
A women trying to rob an 80 year-old shouldn't raise a child. I have no problem with this man shooting her.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:52 pm to Alahunter
Pregnant women shouldn't go around robbing people, it's harder for them to run away when things go wrong.
If you rob someone at their house, you are likely to get shot or worse, everybody in America should know the damn rules by now.
If you rob someone at their house, you are likely to get shot or worse, everybody in America should know the damn rules by now.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:53 pm to Alahunter
Shot her twice in the back? Yeah, that's murder and not self defense. She was running away. The threat was over.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:54 pm to DanMullins4Life
Shooting someone in the back as they're running away is murder. It's just that simple.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:55 pm to Duke
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Shot her twice in the back? Yeah, that's murder and not self defense. She was running away. The threat was over.
My thoughts. Even if he shots her, why shot to kill a pregnant woman who's no longer a threat?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:57 pm to undecided
He let them get out of the house before he fired. That's his mistake. Well, that and missing the dude.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:58 pm to roadGator
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That's his mistake.
I thought his mistake was murdering her. Good thing for him is he'll be dead soon anyway.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:58 pm to Duke
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Shot her twice in the back? Yeah, that's murder and not self defense. She was running away. The threat was over.
The fight or flight impulse, however, was not over. The old man was fighting, the robbers were in flight. If I was on his jury I would not vote him guilty.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:00 pm to undecided
How does he know she is really pregnant?
How does he know that they wont come back with a bigger gun? I mean, they are robbers, they aren't exactly trustworthy or predictable.
How does he know that they wont come back with a bigger gun? I mean, they are robbers, they aren't exactly trustworthy or predictable.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:02 pm to roadGator
Wouldn't have killed her if she wasn't robbing him
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:02 pm to Alahunter
If he was no longer in imminent danger, and from what I read he wasn't since the man had fled the scene and the woman was in the process of fleeing, then it's no longer self defense. It's murder.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:03 pm to Alahunter
1 question:
Was she Muslim?
Was she Muslim?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
Shoot shoot and shoot again.. They were dumbasses.. The geezer was in the right
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:07 pm to Alahunter
Self defense, but he's in CA, so I bet he's fricked.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:13 pm to PrivatePublic
It's not self defense if they were running away. No reasonable person would beleive their life was in danger. They had robbed him more than once, they pushed him down. Vengeance isn't justification for killing someone.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:15 pm to auggie
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How does he know she is really pregnant? How does he know that they wont come back with a bigger gun? I mean, they are robbers, they aren't exactly trustworthy or predictable
Which is why I don't exactly fault him for shooting her. Apparently this was their 2nd time robbing him. My issue is him giving her two shots in the back versus 1 in the leg or a less fatal area
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:16 pm to Duke
I wanna know how many of these people who think it's perfectly fine to murder a pregnant woman, and thus her unborn child, are adamantly against abortion.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:19 pm to undecided
You can't shoot people who are running away and have any sort of legal defense. They took his stuff. She asked him not to shoot her and then ran away, he then chose to kill her. We have a legal system to remedy theives.
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