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2014 Fall Camp Discussion

Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:45 pm
Like, last year but with less Johnny.

Players will report on Friday, August 1st. I haven't seen a practice schedule but will post if I do.

2014 Schedule

Aug 28 @ South Carolina 5:00 pm SECN
Sep 06 Lamar 6:30 pm SECN
Sep 13 Rice 8:00 pm ESPN2
Sep 20 @ SMU
Sep 27 Arkansas @ Jerryworld
Oct 04 @ Mississippi State
Oct 11 Ole Miss
Oct 18 @ Alabama
Oct 25 BYE
Nov 01 Louisiana-Monroe
Nov 08 @ Auburn
Nov 15 Missouri
Nov 22 BYE
Nov 27 LSU 6:30pm ESPN

Initial 2-deep (this is post-spring so no new enrollees are on it and it isn't official)

QB: Kenny Hill (SO) OR Kyle Allen (FR)
RB: Tra Carson (JR), Trey Williams (JR) OR Brandon Williams (JR) OR James White (FR)
WR: Ricky Seals-Jones (FR), Josh Reynolds (SO)
WR: Speedy Noil (FR), Edward Pope (JR)
WR: Malcome Kennedy (SR), Jeremy Tabuyo (SO)
WR: LaQuvionte Gonzalez (SO), Sabian Holmes (JR)
TE: Cam Clear (SR), Brandon Alexander (JR)

LT: Cedric Ogbuehi (SR), Ryan Lindblade (SO) OR JJ Gustaffson (FR)
LG: Jarvis Harrison (SR), Garrett Gramling (SR)
C: Mike Matthews (JR), Ben Compton (SR)
RG: Joseph Cheek (JR) OR Garrett Gramling (SR), Jermaine Eluemunor (JR)
RT: Germain Ifedi (SO), Avery Gennesy (JR)

WDE: Daeshon Hall (SO), Tyrone Taylor (SO)
DT: Alonzo Williams (JR), Justin Manning (FR)
NT: Hardreck Walker (SO), Zaycoven Henderson (FR)
SDE: Julien Obioha (JR), Jay Arnold (SO)
WLB: AJ Hilliard (SO), Tommy Sanders (SR)
MLB: Jordan Mastrogiavanni (SO), Reggie Chevis (FR) OR Justin Bass (SR)
SLB: Shaan Washington (SO), Donnie Baggs (SR)

CB: Deshazor Everett (SR), Victor Davis (FR)
CB: De'Vante Harris (JR), Tavares Garner (SO)
BS: Howard Matthews (SR), Devonta Burns (JR)
FS: Floyd Raven (SR), Clay Honeycutt (SR)

PK: Josh Lambo (JR), Taylor Bertolet (SO)
P: Drew Kaser (SO)

KR: Trey Williams (JR)
PR: Speedy Noil (FR)

Practice #1 Friday, Aug 1 5:50pm Helmets
Practice #2 Saturday, Aug 2 5:50pm Helmets
Practice #3 Monday, Aug 4 5:50pm Shells
Practice #4 Tuesday, Aug 5 5:50pm Shells
Practice #5 Wednesday, Aug 6 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #6 Thursday, Aug 7 9:40am Helmets
Practice #7 Thursday, Aug 7 5:50pm Full Pads
Practice #8 Friday, Aug 8 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #9 Saturday, Aug 9 5:20pm Full Pads (Scrimmage)
Practice #10 Monday, Aug 11 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #11 Tuesday, Aug 12 9:40am Helmets
Practice #12 Tuesday, Aug 12 5:50pm Full Pads
Practice #13 Wednesday, Aug 13 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #14 Thursday, Aug 14 9:40am Helmets
Practice #15 Thursday, Aug 14 5:50pm Shells
Practice #16 Friday, Aug 15 5:00pm Full Pads (Scrimmage)
Practice #17 Saturday, Aug 16 6:00pm Helmets
Practice #18 Monday, Aug 18 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #19 Tuesday, Aug 19 6:00pm Full Pads
Practice #20 Wednesday, Aug 20 6:00pm Helmets
Practice #21 Thursday, Aug 21 6:00pm Full Pads
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 11:51 am
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:45 pm to
The number next to incomers is their 247 recruit rating.

QUARTERBACKS

Who's gone: Johnny Manziel (NFL), Matt Joeckel (transferred to TCU)
Who's back: #7 Kenny Hill (6-1, 215, SO)
Who's new: #10 Kyle Allen 100 (6-3, 205, FR)

Obviously it's a transitional year and we don't know who the QB will be. Hill has a year in the system and showed a bit of swagger when he got into the game last year. But the early buzz on Allen is phenomenal. Hill is more of a game manager, taking what the defense gives, and working the offense. He also is fairly adept as a runner. Allen will take more shots and has an almost perfect delivery and while he moves well in the pocket, he mostly remains there. Sumlin has publicly said he doesn't expect to name a starter until 2 weeks prior to South Carolina. Hearing positive on both QBs but Allen seems to have "it" and it's hard to bet against him.

RUNNING BACKS

Who's gone: Ben Malena (eligibility expired)
Who's back: #21 Tra Carson (6-0, 230, JR), #3 Trey Williams (5-8, 195, JR), #5 Brandon Williams (6-0, 200, JR), #20 James White (6-0, 218, RS-FR)
Who's new: none

Malena will be sorely missed for his leadership and blocking but from a pure talent standpoint, the A&M backfield is loaded. Carson and Trey Williams both showed what they can do at times last year with Carson really shining down the stretch. Brandon Williams is insanely talented but hasn't seemed to have had that breakout. James White is best described as a younger, bigger Malena. He's definitely already a coach favorite and may well see the field more than people expect. He'll definitely find a spot on Special Teams. This backfield is deep and diverse.

WIDE RECEIVERS

Who's gone: Mike Evans (NFL), Derel Walker (eligibility expired), Travis Labhart (eligibility expired), Sebastian Larue (transferred to Washington State), Jaquay Williams (transferred to Louisville), LaKendrick Williams (graduated)
Who's back: #84 Malcome Kennedy (6-0, 205, SR), #23 Sabian Holmes (5-11, 175, JR), #18 Edward Pope (6-4, 180, SO), #9 Ricky Seals-Jones (6-5, 225, RS-FR), #6 LaQuvionte Gonzalez (5-10, 165, SO), #80 Kyrion Parker (6-2, 194, RS-FR), #19 Jeremy Tabuyo (5-11, 186, SO)
Who's new: #2 Speedy Noil 100 (5-11, 190, FR), #15 Frank Iheanacho 96 (6-5, 220, FR), #13 Jamal Jeffery 87 (5-9, 175, FR), #11 Josh Reynolds 89 (6-4, 190, SO)

While everyone knows Evans left early for the NFL and it's pretty hard to replace a top 10 draft pick, the A&M receiver corps may be as talented as it's ever been in '14. The group will be led by steady veteran Malcome Kennedy. Kennedy is maybe the least explosive WR on the roster but he runs good routes, catches the ball, and blocks downfield. He also outworks everyone. He'll provide a security blanket to whomever is tossing the rock. RSJ is back after a knee injury last fall and all signs point to a huge season. He was the talk of the town last August but somehow this spring he was overshadowed by Speedy Noil. Noil is a game changer and his presence is going to force changes in how defenses approach us. Another newcomer, Josh Reynolds, also made a splash this spring. The JUCO transfer showed length and explosiveness and may force a reshuffle of the original position plan to get him onto the field. In the shadows, guys like Pope, Holmes, Quiv, and Tabuyo each have had their ups and downs. But each has ability and could emerge like Labhart last year. And that's not even counting Parker who was a scout team star last year while redshirting but injuries kept him out of the spring. Incomers Iheanacho and Jeffrey will get their chance but this is an extremely talented group to break into right now and chances of a redshirt are high (esp Jeffrey who is dealing with a back injury)

TIGHT ENDS

Who's gone: Nehemiah Hicks (eligibility expired)
Who's back: #85 Cameron Clear (6-6, 274, SR), #41 Brandon Alexander (6-6, 266, JR)
Who's new: none

Cam Clear came with a lot of hype, but until the CFA bowl, he really didn't have much impact in the passing game (he was a monster in the run game however). Again we hear rumors that we're going to rework the position to take advantage of his talents but we've heard this before and with our WRs, it's hard to take them out of the game. Ricky Seals-Jones has worked in this new hybrid TE set which could be pretty interesting and Brandon Alexander returns as a 2nd blocking TE in short yardage sets. The potential for redefining the role is definitely there but Spav needs to show me before I believe.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN

Who's gone: Jake Matthews (NFL), Shep Klinke (eligibility expired), Ishmael Wilson (transferred to Baylor), Joas Aguilar (retired)
Who's back: #70 Cedric Ogbuehi (6-5, 300, SR), #51 Jarvis Harrison (6-4, 325, SR), #56 Mike Matthews (6-2, 285, JR), #74 Germain Ifedi (6-5, 320, SO), #79 Joseph Cheek (6-7, 304, JR), #68 Ben Compton (6-4, 300, SR), #78 Garrett Gramling (6-6, 315, SR), #71 Kimo Tipoti (6-3, 314, SO), #73 Jeremiah Stuckey 81 (6-4, 300, SO)
Who's new: #77 J.J. Gustafson 86 (6-5, 277, FR), #72 Jermaine Eluemunor 97 (6-4, 318, JR), #65 Avery Gennesy 94 (6-4, 270, JR), #76 Zach Ledwik 86 (6-5, 270, FR), #75 Koda Martin 88 (6-6, 275, FR), #50 Tank Davis 86 (6-4, 265, FR)

The offensive line continues to be a rock in this offense, returning 4 starters from a 2014 group that was one of the best in the nation. Ogbuehi slides from RT to LT and Ifedi from RG to RT. This opens up the RG spot for an open competition and early returns are it will be between Joe Cheek and Garrett Gramling. Gramling looked quite good filling in for Harrison at times last year but Cheek had a nice spring. The two JUCOs Eluemunor and Gennessy worked 2nd team in the spring but either could emerge in fall camp to challenge here as well. Not only is this a talented front line group, it has good depth. Harrison has played some at LT. Cheek at RT. Compton is a solid backup center who can also slide to guard. And Gramling has several starts under his belt at LG. So it would take multiple injuries before there is any real concern about depth. This should allow all 4 of the incoming freshmen to redshirt, though if one plays, it will likely be Gustaffson who really was impressive in the spring.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:46 pm to
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

Who's gone: Polo Manukainiu (RIP), Kirby Ennis (eligibility expired), Gavin Stansbury (dismissed), Isaiah Golden (dismissed), Jordan Points (dismissed)
Who's back: #95 Julien Obioha (6-4, 256, JR), #83 Alonzo Williams (6-4, 290, JR), #89 Ivan Robinson (6-3, 290, SR), #35 Tyrell Taylor (6-4, 230, SR), #50 Tyrone Taylor (6-3, 250, SO), #10 Daeshon Hall (6-6, 245, SO), #98 Hardreck Walker (6-2, 300, SO), #96 Jay Arnold (6-4, 275, SO), #55 Justin Manning (6-1, 300, RS-FR)
Who's new: #15 Myles Garrett 101 (6-5, 250, FR), #90 DeShawn Washington 89 (6-3, 285, FR), #9 Qualen Cunningham 94 (6-3, 220, FR), #92 Zaycoven Henderson 90 (6-1, 310, FR), #40 Jarrett Johnson 89 (6-3, 240, FR), #97 Darrell Jackson NA (6-5, 230, RS-FR)

While there is certainly angst over losing Golden and Stansbury and potentially Robinson, there are a lot of positives too. After a failed transition to WDE, Obioha returns to a role he's better suited for. As a 2-year starter, he should lead the group. Several players may get a shot backing him up including Jay Arnold and incoming phenom, Myles Garrett. At WDE, Daeshon Hall returns and is supposedly both healthy and has put on weight. Hall showed massive potential at times last year but struggled with the physicality. Garrett should push here as well and it would hardly be surprising to see him lining up at WDE on the first snap vs SC. The wildcard in this is Darrell Jackson, a late JUCO addition who played safety in HS. He can't redshirt so he'll probably battle with the Taylors for a depth spot this year as he transitions to the position. The other two freshmen, Cunningham and Johnson will need to really show out in fall camp or they will likely redshirt instead of wasting a year of eligibility as a 3rd teamer. Inside is a different story. Zo Williams was hit and miss last year but he showed potential. He returns but needs to show real improvement, especially with consistency. Justin Manning will likely push for the job in the fall and while the potential is there, the light hasn't quite gone on for him yet. Jay Arnold slid inside early last year due to need and could potentially do so again if Zo and Manning struggle. Incomer Washington may have a say here as well though ideally you'd let him redshirt. At the nose, Hardreck Walker returns after getting significant time last year. He and spring enrollee Zay Henderson will likely be asked to lock down the spot. But this may be the thinnest spot on defense now so an injury could be devastating.

LINEBACKERS

Who's gone: Steven Jenkins (eligibility expired), Nate Askew (eligibility expired), Darian Claiborne (dismissed)
Who's back: #45 Jordan Mastrogiovanni (6-3, 235, SO), #46 A.J. Hilliard (6-2, 225, SO), #33 Shaan Washington (6-2, 227, SO), #16 Donnie Baggs (6-1, 230, SR), #3 Tommy Sanders 92 (6-2, 220, SR), #52 Brett Wade (6-1, 230, RS-FR), #13 Reggie Chevis (6-1, 255, RS-FR)
Who's new: #42 Otaro Alaka 93 (6-3, 210, FR), #14 Josh Walker 94 (6-1, 220, FR)

A year removed from returning only 2 LBs on the roster, A&M has 7 this year. But the talk is that playmaker Darion Claiborne is one of those not returning. At WLB, expect AJ Hilliard to be the guy. He was moved there from SAM in the spring as the coaches had some doubts about Claiborne. Tommy Sanders missed the spring but a year removed from JUCO, should challenge Hilliard at the spot. Sanders may be the best cover LB on the roster. In the middle, Mastrogiavanni emerged as a leader in the spring and has been the talk of the coaching staff. Forced into action last year straight out of private school, he struggled at times with the speed of the game. Here is where the loss of Claiborne hurts though, as if Mastro struggles in game action, there isn't a clear option. Chevis has the measurables but hasn't yet put it together and right now, it's more likely walk-on (though certain to get a ship) Justin Bass would step in. Another option that will be tested in the fall is incoming freshman Josh Walker inside. Ideally he'd be a WLB but need may force this. At SAM, last season was a disaster. Shaan Washington is the leading candidate to play here but Donnie Baggs is being used in the Jack package (335) that may be used again more than anyone wants because of DT issues. Otara Alaka is an ideal candidate for both spots but it's unlikely the rather thin true freshman will be ready in time. Like Washington last year, a redshirt would be ideal, but again like last year, he may be forced into action anyway.

DEFENSIVE BACKS

Who's gone: Toney Hurd Jr (eligibility expired), Tramain Jacobs (eligibility expired), Kenneth Marshall (dismissed), Kameron Miles (dismissed)
Who's back: #29 Deshazor Everett (6-0, 188, SR), #1 De'Vante Harris (5-11, 175, JR), #31 Howard Matthews (6-2, 215, SR), #5 Floyd Raven Sr (6-2, 200, SR), #25 Clay Honeycutt (6-2, 200, SR), #26 Devonta Burns (6-0, 214, JR), #4 Noel Ellis (5-10, 180, SO), #22 Tavares Garner (6-0, 180, SO), #28 Victor Davis (6-0, 194, RS-FR), #17 Alex Sezer Jr 86 (5-9, 180, SO), #36 Jonathan Wiggins 83 (6-3, 213, SO)
Who's new: #8 Nick Harvey 95 (5-10, 180, FR), #23 Armani Watts 94 (5-11, 178, FR), #18 Donovan Wilson 83 (6-1, 185, FR)

Despite returning all 4 starters from '13, this is a transition year for the secondary as new coach Terry Joseph takes over with a different philosophy. The personnel is not necessarily well suited to Joseph's press man style so there could be some reshuffling of positions. Both corners return and the coaches have been adamant that Deshazor will remain at CB all year. He was named a pre-season all-SEC. Harris is a great cover guy who struggles with strength. He's a JR now and there really are no more excuses. Garner and Davis backed up here in the spring but incoming freshman Armani Watts may also get a real look, especially now with Davis suspended. Safety was a disaster in '13. Howard Matthews regressed to the point that he was abysmal. Indications are that he had a good spring so there is hope he can return to late '12 form. Honeycutt and Raven took turns making fans cringe and both return at FS. But Sumlin stated Nick Harvey will probably start out here and Donovan Wilson has also had high praise in summer 7v7. Don't be surprised if either starts and both end up in the 2-deep. Rumors of Justin Evans joining for the fall would certainly change things up as well. At nickel, Toney Hurd departs and his leadership will be sorely missed. Ellis and Sezer worked here in the spring but late on, Burns was moved into the role and flourished. Joseph may not have "his guys" in place yet but there is enough talent and experience to improve upon last year's shitshow and be a good SEC secondary, even if not elite.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Who's gone: none
Who's back: #49 Josh Lambo (6-0, 220, JR), #24 Taylor Bertolet (5-9, 174, JR), #38 Drew Kaser (6-3, 220, JR)
Who's new: none

In one year, A&M went from comical kicking units to one of the nations best with new coach Jeff Banks. Lambo became a reliable placekicker. Kaser was an all-American. And Bertolet was a top kickoff guy. All return and kicking seems to be the least of our worries this year.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:51 pm to
awesome work as always. Thank you
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:14 pm to
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Posted by Projectpat
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:33 pm to
Good read
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
Upvotes on all. I didn't realize this was original work on your part. Excellent!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:43 pm to
At the risk of sniping:

-Cameron Clear is #85, not #87
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Cameron Clear is #85, not #87

corrected
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:30 pm to
I honestly feel really good about this year. If Walker and Henderson can hold up for a whole season at NT.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:55 pm to
I am too. I try hard to be objective but I'm honestly a pretty optimistic person so sometimes I have to dial myself back. I think we have a real shot to be a surprise team this year though if a few things get shored up.
Posted by Jobu93
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:58 pm to
good job. great writeup
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:59 pm to
Oh yeah I parked my car here
Posted by GregoryPeck
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Who's gone: Polo Manukainiu (RIP), Kirby Ennis (eligibility expired), Gavin Stansbury (dismissed), Isaiah Golden (dismissed), Jordan Points (dismissed)


Man, that just hurts my heart in so many ways.
Posted by leoj
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Posted by SpeedyNacho
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
TMC, to the offseason rescue!

Posted by Motengator
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Excellent work.
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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Kennedy is maybe the least explosive WR on the roster but he runs good routes, catches the ball, and blocks downfield. He also outworks everyone
we may have found a whiter black person than tbird
Posted by Big Kat
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