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Lets talk dynasties
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:29 pm
Were will ours rank if we can win 2 more before Saban retires?
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:44 pm to MontyFranklyn
Say Saban coaches until 2019 and we win two more. That would be 5 in 11 years. I don't know of any that are better
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
This is always a tricky topic. People define "greatest dynasties" with very different angles.
I think our average football teams since 2008 have likely been the most physically dominant and capable teams of all time. That would draw a shite ton of heat on the SEC rant because people do NOT want to admit to any active dynasty's fans something like that... ESPECIALLY us. Auburn/UT fans HATE us.. and LSU fans on this site are wildly aggressive towards us.
But humans have gotten faster and stronger as time goes on, and I also think as humans we have gotten better and better at football itself. If you put all of that AND the players Saban got on our teams, I believe with all I got that if money were on the line people would bet on our team vs the other team the majority of the time.
This exercise would require being able to take the 90's Nebraska teams at their peak and playing our teams at our peak. Since we don't have a time machine, we'll never know and it will always be a fun conversation... but I would absolutely take whatever team is widely considered our best team under Saban and put them against any ball club of years' past.
Where will ours rank if we snag 2 more before he retires? TWO more?! I gotta put it at the top of the list, bob.
I think our average football teams since 2008 have likely been the most physically dominant and capable teams of all time. That would draw a shite ton of heat on the SEC rant because people do NOT want to admit to any active dynasty's fans something like that... ESPECIALLY us. Auburn/UT fans HATE us.. and LSU fans on this site are wildly aggressive towards us.
But humans have gotten faster and stronger as time goes on, and I also think as humans we have gotten better and better at football itself. If you put all of that AND the players Saban got on our teams, I believe with all I got that if money were on the line people would bet on our team vs the other team the majority of the time.
This exercise would require being able to take the 90's Nebraska teams at their peak and playing our teams at our peak. Since we don't have a time machine, we'll never know and it will always be a fun conversation... but I would absolutely take whatever team is widely considered our best team under Saban and put them against any ball club of years' past.
Where will ours rank if we snag 2 more before he retires? TWO more?! I gotta put it at the top of the list, bob.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:24 pm to m2pro
I think it is fair to say the players today are bigger, stronger, and faster than ever before, and therefore it isn't really fair to say today's teams would beat previous years teams because it is unfair to older teams.
I think this question is really asking how dominant were those dynasties relative to their competition. Because we are able to dissect today's teams like never before, I feel that there will be a bias against recent teams.
I think this question is really asking how dominant were those dynasties relative to their competition. Because we are able to dissect today's teams like never before, I feel that there will be a bias against recent teams.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:32 pm to MontyFranklyn
5 in 11 years would be the best, as long as the 6 off years are still solid seasons.
There is more parity in CFB than ever before, and this run is happening in the toughest conference in CFB history.
There is more parity in CFB than ever before, and this run is happening in the toughest conference in CFB history.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:26 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Miami did 4 in 8 and right now they rank as the best dynasty in CFB. If we win this year I would like to think we would be, but who knows
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:35 pm to MontyFranklyn
It would be if we go undefeated, imo. I think most outsiders want to see Bama go undefeated one more time in this run before they crown the Tide. We came close last year, but...
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:20 am to MontyFranklyn
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Lets talk dynasties
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:48 am to MontyFranklyn
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Miami did 4 in 8 and right now they rank as the best dynasty in CFB.
I dunno...Miami actually won 4 in 9 (1983 to 1991 covers 9 seasons)...I think 3/4 is better than 4/9...only 3 teams in history have won 3 of 4... Notre Dame ('46, '47, '49), Nebraska ('94, '95, '97), and Bama ('09, '11, '12). And ND in the '40's won 4 in 7 (add '43 to the titles above)...
Of these, I'd probably rank Nebraska tops as they were only a missed FG away (in '93) from winning 3 in a row (and 4 of 5)...and they were undefeated in each of their championship seasons during that run...
Bama's argument is that each of their championship seasons in culminated in a #1 vs. #2 matchup, as no other team can make that claim in a similar time frame...
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