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Who will be at the current position longest: Mullen, Freeze, or Muschamp?

Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:50 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:50 am
State fans are used to mediocrity and are satisfied with 8 win seasons.

Freeze has come in and had great recruiting but has yet to deliver anything of substance after giving the Ole Miss fan base hope.

Muschamp had a great year two years ago, but his team was decimated by injury in route to a 4-8 last year.

I'll go with Muschamp. I think Driskel and Co. turn the offense around and with the talent rich high schools in Florida, Muschamp will continue to recruit well.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:52 am to
Mullen most likely.

With high expectations comes epic failures and leads to a change in coaching at Ole Miss.

Muschamp could make it out the longest, if he finds an offense.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:53 am to
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Freeze has come in and had great recruiting but has yet to deliver anything of substance after giving the Ole Miss fan base hope.



yes...he's only won 15 games his first two years...but considering two of those are bowl victories coming off us winning 6 games combined the two years prior to him....


I'd say he's done a good to slightly-great job so far.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:55 am to
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yes...he's only won 15 games his first two years...b


And Houston Nutt did something that hadn't been done in fiddy, fiddy! years his first two seasons.

Didn't buy him any job security.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:56 am to
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Freeze has come in and had great recruiting but has yet to deliver anything of substance after giving the Ole Miss fan base hope.



It's only his third year. And the program was 2-10 when he got here. It's WAY too early to even suggest that he doesn't have job security.
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:56 am to
Mullen. State knows no one else in their right mind would willingly move to Starkville.
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:56 am to
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I'd say he's done a good to slightly-great job so far.


You would call 3-5 and 6th in the SEC West in his second year slightly- great?
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:57 am to
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Mullen. State knows no one else in their right mind would willingly move to Starkville.


The best HC in aggy history chose to move there.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:57 am to
Fully aware of that....but Nutt had a pretty stacked roster to go with and ran it into the ground.


If Freeze wins 4 games this season and two the next, then your comparison has some merit.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:59 am to
If Freeze continues to win only 7-8 games a year and goes 3-5 in the SEC every year, he will be gone in a couple years.

If Mullens does that, state is having can drives to make money from recycling aluminum cans to fund a Mullen statue.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:59 am to
shite, and he did something Aggie could't do with JFF.
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:00 am to
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The best HC in aggy history chose to move there.


RC Slocum moved to Starkville?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:01 am to
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You would call 3-5 and 5th in the SEC West in his second year slightly- great?



You could have included the rest of the post in your quote and it would have answered your question. What would you have considered slighty-great in our situation? An SEC Championship in his first two seasons?

If a guy inherits an 8-win program...then yes. We won 2 games the season before he got here. We just now have 85 actual scholarship players on roster*.



*-denotes that I'm excluding former walk-ons that were given scholarships.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:05 am to
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You could have included the rest of the post in your quote and it would have answered your question. What would you have considered slighty-great in our situation? An SEC Championship in his first two seasons?

If a guy inherits an 8-win program...then yes. We won 2 games the season before he got here. We just now have 85 actual scholarship players on roster*


Malzahn inherited a team that went winless in the SEC and had them in the National Championship the next season, so I think when throwing around the word "great" that is where one should start.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:06 am to
There's no way to answer this question. For boom it comes down to whether or not his OC can get the offense to improve enough.

If that doesn't happen it won't be Boom lasting the longest.
Posted by TheNorthPlace
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:13 am to
Your right...absolutely no talent difference between Auburn 2013 and Ole Miss 2012... I guess we missed out on our natty run then. All we needed was about 7 miracles like Auburn.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:16 am to
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Malzahn inherited a team that went winless in the SEC and had them in the National Championship the next season, so I think when throwing around the word "great" that is where one should start.




Remember when Auburn won the national championship recently? We went 4-8 that season. Then we had a 2 win season shortly after.

Point is...if you go back, there are two things that I talked about. One being the records of the seasons prior to him. The second being us having a devastated roster. Malzahn inherited a MUCH better team than Freeze did. Not discrediting what Malzahn did at all because it truly was amazing that he got them to the NC game in one season.

What Malzahn did was incomparable. It was truly beyond great.

The year we signed 32 under Nutt....I'm pretty sure that class only had 7 remaining players on the team when it reached it's senior class. It seemed like we had someone kicked off the team every month.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:17 am to
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BamaDoc14



You're an idiot.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:17 am to
It isn't Nutt's fault Freeze didn't know how to use the talent he left him.

Stop blaming others for Freeze's short comings.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:18 am to
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It isn't Nutt's fault Freeze didn't know how to use the talent he left him.

Stop blaming others for Freeze's short comings.




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