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247 releases new Top247 tomorrow.

Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:07 pm
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:07 pm
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We're doing some final tinkering today with the Top247 for 2015 following The Opening and the new rankings will be released on Wednesday morning. A couple notes:
There will be a new No. 1 in the country
There will be a new No. 1 QB in the country
There was a lot of movement in the five-star range. Several dropped out and were replaced by new names. As things stand right now. 6 five-stars drop to 4 and 6 four-stars are bumped to 5.


Any guesses on who will be the new #1 in the country?

Top quarterback?

Six that lost their five stars and six four stars that bumped to five?
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:13 pm to
Don't feed the machine.

The fact that they are constantly tinkering with these rankings Just tells you how bullshite they pretty much are in the end. It would be one thing if they just put out positional rankings, but ranking all positions together is just stupid.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:14 pm to
Tolliver had a 70-ish SPARQ rating, I wonder if he's one of the guys that drops?


These were the guys who were All Opening 1st Team, so probably some of the guys in here who were 4's are now going to be 5's.

All-Opening Team (Offense)
4* QB Travis Waller (Oregon)
5* QB Ricky Town (USC)
4* QB Blake Barnett (Alabama)
4* RB Soso Jamabo
4* RB RayRay McCloud III
4* WR Trent Irwin
4* WR Calvin Ridley (Alabama)
4* WR Christian Kirk
4* TE Jackson Harris (Georgia)
4* ATH Donte Jackson

All-Opening Team (Defense)
4* LB Roquan Smith
4* LB Josh Smith (Vanderbilt)
5* LB Malik Jefferson
5* LB Justin Hilliard
4* DB Tavarus McFadden
5* DB Derwin James (Florida State)
4* DB Holton Hill
5* DB Kevin Toliver II (LSU)
4* DB Justin Dunning (Texas A&M)
4* DB Xavier Lewis (LSU)
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:18 pm to
I think Daron Payne is going to drop. He's put together a few inconsistent camp performances.

I think Calvin Ridley will be a five star. Incoming Bama bump .

I also think Rosen will be the top quarterback in the country. Town is just not as consistent as Rosen on the camp circuit.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15275 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:19 pm to
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The fact that they are constantly tinkering with these rankings Just tells you how bullshite they pretty much are in the end.


Well that's certainly not true at all. The opposite would be b.s.

quote:

It would be one thing if they just put out positional rankings, but ranking all positions together is just stupid.


There is truth to that.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:21 pm to
I can see the logic of ranking positions against each other as a way to show which position group is stronger.

For example, Leonard Fournette being the top running back in last year's class was a big accomplishment, as there were a ton of talented backs in that class. This running back class leaves me with the meh. Damien Harris, top running back in this class, would be 4th or 5th at best last year.
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:27 pm to
Regarding 5 stars, I'd bet that guys who haven't been to any camps since mid-spring are likely to drop.

Would not be stunned to see Josh Sweat drop. I would have worried about Toliver dropping, but he's apparently been doing very well at camp the last week. Town is not #1 in the class material, in my opinion. Wouldn't be stunned to see Hyatt, Edoga, and Teuhema either drop or rise - OT rankings are prone to fluctuation from what I've seen. I'm not sold on Shy Tuttle at all, but others strongly disagree with me.

I see Deionte Thompson as a likely riser. He's a great playmaker. Damarkus Lodge is another guy I expect to rise. Wouldn't be surprised if they came closer to the consensus on Godwin and Campbell, too.

I don't know enough about other guys to say, really.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:28 pm to
VFL Kahlil McKenzie will be the new #1
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:28 pm to
I believe Khalil Mckenzie will get bumped to a 5* after after his performance at a few camps recently
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:30 pm to
Kahlil is already a 5* and the #10 player overall.
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:36 pm to
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I believe Khalil Mckenzie will get bumped to a 5* after after his performance at a few camps recently


247 is adjusting their own rankings. The composite is a separate metric that averages the ratings from other sites; they don't adjust that the same way.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18494 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:38 pm to
Bama bumps; others will fall.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:39 pm to
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Bama bumps; others will fall.


Interesting take. Which Bama players do you see getting a bump in their rankings?
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:48 pm to
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Which Bama players do you see getting a bump in their rankings?



Deionte Thompson - have your guys been talking him up? He screams 5-star to me.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:50 pm to
Ridley should be a 5*.

Gibson drops to a 4*.

Murray drops to a 4*.

Meuhema drops to a 4*.

Barnett new 5*.

Campbell new 5*.


Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 pm to
Thompson is one of my favorite recruits in this next class, second only to Calvin Ridley. As far as film goes, he reminds me a lot of HaHa coming out of high school.
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:55 pm to
It wouldn't be recruiting if we didn't shake up the rankings based on a few backyard football games played in gym shorts.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:57 pm to
Bama Bump Wednesday
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
1557 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:57 pm to
All BAMA commits/leans/offers will rise as always.

Most LSU commits will "get passed up". I'm 100% sure Kevin Toliver and Meae Teuhema will drop more than 10 spots. Teuhema will eventually lose his 5th star, might not be tomorrow. As for Toliver, he's rated a bit too high. I see him dropping quite a bit throughout the year.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:00 pm to
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It wouldn't be recruiting if we didn't shake up the rankings based on a few backyard football games played in gym shorts.


True. However, it is pretty hard to judge players outside of these camps because of the discrepancy in the competition. For example, watch Damien Harris's highlight film. Is he really that good? Or is the opponent really that bad?
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