Started By
Message

How many of you here write song lyrics/ musical poetry?

Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:32 pm
It has been established, that we have some serious pickers on here, and some hellbent learners ( put me in this group).
It would be interesting to know how many, if any think about that other part of the songs.
If you do write words, how do you go about it? Get your ideas? approach it? Use hooks?
How much of it is really related to you in real life, or really from watching other people?
If you write words but don't pick, feel free to chime in here too.
I try to write lyrics, but they usually end up sounding clownish to me.
Is it that way for everybody? an inquiring mind would like to know.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:40 pm to
I can't just sit down and write or it feels forced. I have to wait to get a line in my head and then go from there.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I can't just sit down and write or it feels forced. I have to wait to get a line in my head and then go from there.


As a writer, I feel the exact same way. That's why writing novels (good novels) is goddamn hard.

Although I feel like I could pump out a romance novel without any trouble at all since they're fairly formulaic.

Music is different, though.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:45 pm to
I have a friend who is a very accomplished song writer. He is CONSTANTLY writing ideas, lines, etc on a little note pad.

He will have hundreds of little phrases, words, ideas, etc that never go anywhere. But, every once in a while, a little blurb will catch and it will become a song worth recording / selling.


He may overhear a conversation of two strangers and one just uses an interesting turn of phrase....writes it in the book. I'll make a humorous observation....writes it in the book
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

He may overhear a conversation of two strangers and one just uses an interesting turn of phrase....writes it in the book. I'll make a humorous observation....writes it in the book


Most of the time when I'm in character development, I'm watching people. Especially specific mannerisms, and at all levels of labor and class. There's so much in this world to observe and learn about.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:48 pm to
Does it ever happen, when whole songs just write themselves?

I've heard some songwriters say that it happens to them sometimes.

If that does happen to you, How do you think about that song?
Do you feel like you got a gift, or something else?
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I have a friend who is a very accomplished song writer. He is CONSTANTLY writing ideas, lines, etc on a little note pad. He will have hundreds of little phrases, words, ideas, etc that never go anywhere. But, every once in a while, a little blurb will catch and it will become a song worth recording / selling. He may overhear a conversation of two strangers and one just uses an interesting turn of phrase....writes it in the book. I'll make a humorous observation....writes it in the book


This is pretty much exactly me. I write things down in my phone because I always have it and then when I'm in the mood I go back and look over what I got and see if any of it's worth a shite.

Or say I come up with a guitar part I like and need words. I'll look through my list of one-liners and see if any of it fits the mood and then hopefully the rest of the words grow from there.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:54 pm to
Would you tell which genre he is mainly involved in?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Would you tell which genre he is mainly involved in?


I'm pretty bad with "genres" when it isn't definitively clear.


mostly Popish....think John Legend, Rhinna et al

He has sold songs to some known entities. He makes a pretty good living at it.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:10 pm to
Thank you, he sells them them instead of publishing?

I mean, he takes cash up front, and signs away royalties, or does he get credit on liner notes?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Thank you, he sells them them instead of publishing?

I mean, he takes cash up front, and signs away royalties, or does he get credit on liner notes?



I have no idea

I do not go that deep with his business.

He says "Hey, I sold a song to ____" and I say "Congratulations!"


That is the end of the 'business' part.

I know it his only source of income and he is doing pretty well. He has sold jingles, etc from time to time and has collaborated with other writers.

He also sings locally and has recorded some music. Typical stuff for that industry. He is getting to be "known" and folks call him and ask 'you got anything I can hear' (Recording artists looking for songs)
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4432 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:20 pm to
I have a notebook at home I write "poetic" stuff in. I don't know if you'd call them poems, song lyrics or what. I just write down the random stuff that pops up in my head. It's never been seen by anybody except for me. No plans to do anything with it but sometimes I like to go back and read it. Always fun to read about whatever I was thinking at a certain point in time.

Also - I wouldn't call it a journal or anything like that because they aren't random stories. It is just a book of stanzas that happen to rhyme.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:43 pm to
i bust rhymes during football season sometimes - usually about fball stuff
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

i bust rhymes during football season sometimes - usually about fball stuff


ever delve into the world of drankin and loose womens? we might could conglomerate... or is that commiserate?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66976 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
I'm most successful when I start with the hooks and flesh it out from there. Generally, my songs start with a great intro hook. Then, I find a good riff for the verses, then one for the chorus, and one for the bridge. Words usually come last. That's the part I struggle with most. I'm great at coming up with catchy hooks and counter-melodies, but I'm not a great lyricist.

I find that I have occasionally been successful when starting with the words and then adding them to music, but that usually doesn't work at all.

The key to writing great music is just to not put any pressure on yourself and just play what comes naturally. Not every song has to be some world changing anthem. Let your emotions flow. If you're angry, play it. If you're happy, play it. If you're sad, play it. The rest will come. I find that my best hooks come when I sit down, take a deep breath, and completely center myself. I let go of all of my thoughts, distractions, and frustrations and just play. Nearly every time I do this, within 5 minutes I've got at bare minimum one part (intro, chorus, verse, or bridge) of a great song.

I have found that sadness and heartbreak fosters the most creativity (probably because the brain is more active during heartbreak than any other time on average). True contentedness is the enemy of creativity, especially with regards to lyrics.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
Thanks man for a great reply.

Do you pitch stuff, enjoy it for yourself and friends?

How do you handle it?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66976 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Thanks man for a great reply.

Do you pitch stuff, enjoy it for yourself and friends?

How do you handle it?



I play for myself, just for the fun of it. I've been wanting to put a band together for years to play some of my stuff, but I've never had the time AND the other other musicians at the same time.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:09 pm to
yeah, that is hard to do. I have stupid friends too. They just dont realize that I can make us all filthy rich!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66976 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:20 pm to
When I graduated high school, a bunch of my close friends who played instruments joined the military or moved out of state while I went to college. About halfway through college for me, they started moving back home, but I started getting slammed with work. I had the opportunity about 6 months ago to get a band off the ground, but then I got shipped out to a field job that had me working 60 hours/week. Then, one of the guys who was in between bands (a phenomenal bass player) found another gig. Now, I have people to replace him with a drummer, bass player, and lead guitarist all in, but my drummer is in school several nights/week, my bassist is in the National Guard so he has to go out of town at least once per month, and I have a big boy job now. Hopefully, we'll be able to work out some kind of practice scheduling and start playing together by the end of the summer.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27701 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:29 pm to
All of my joking aside...That is a satisfying feeling when your friends collaborate on one of your songs and it turns out nice.

Take their suggestions too, and make sure they feel like a part of it.

You might find something that really works.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter