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SEC Playoff scenario

Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted by Socratics
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:54 pm
There are 3 SEC teams with a single loss at the end of the season. Auburn, Mizzou and Alabama

Auburn is the SEC Champion

All other Power Conference Champions have 1 loss

Will all 3 SEC teams get into the playoffs?

Should all 3 SEC teams go to the playoffs and why?

If only 2 SEC teams get into the playoff, which team doesn't make it and why?

Do you believe the fans of the Team that didn't make the playoffs have the right to be mad?

Do you think the committee could select only 1 SEC team? From an Auburn perspective (SEC Champion), would you be upset if you were the only one who went to the playoffs from the SEC.

Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

There are 3 SEC teams with a single loss at the end of the season.


quote:

Mizzou



You lost me here.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:57 pm to
The committee would never allow 75% of the playoff to be SEC.


It would take Auburn and MAYBE Alabama. People are already wary of the SEC's recent run so they will be trying to level the playing field for other Conferences.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:59 pm to
Lol no.



The system has to be setup somehow to where that can't happen regardless of if the panel sees it as such.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:11 am to
God I hope not. That would be boring as frick.

If every power conference champ has one loss then there should only be one team per conference in the playoff.
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:18 am to
quote:

There are 3 SEC teams with a single loss at the end of the season. Auburn, Mizzou



Stopped reading there. Those teams will have 8 losses combined.
Posted by Blake R
Member since Jun 2010
1376 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:30 am to
Mizzou won't lose 8 games, Larry.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:43 am to
You're right. Auburn will. Just like the good ole times.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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15539 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:45 am to
Larry, please go mountain biking with a cactus shoved up your arse hole.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 1:04 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:47 am to
Who won the SEC champ game? That will be only team in. I do not think the SEC or any conference will get 2 in, nor should they, unless they are 12-1 and won all games by 21 plus and lost the SECCG like the Kick 6.

If you cant win your conference you have no complaints to be in a game or playoff for a NC, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 12:48 am
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:53 am to
I don't think another year like 2011 could happen again.


That was the perfect storm that allowed LSU and Bama to meet again
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:02 am to
Larry, how many fathers are you gonna kill before you are actually dead yourself?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139830 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:10 am to
It is not about LSU Alabama or whatever. When OU went to the Sugar Bowl in 03, it should have been changed. There is no way the number 1 team in human polls should be left out. Computers are biased just by the fact they are programmed by humans makes it happen.

I trust my eyes more than a game of an opponents opponents to determine my NCG, as what happened with OU, USC, LSU.

This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 1:12 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36104 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:23 am to
quote:

Will all 3 SEC teams get into the playoffs?



No, IMO the SEC Champ and Alabama would regardless of relative qualifications. I think this thing will inevitably be influenced by name popularity and that gives the USC, OU, ND, Alabama kind of programs a leg up over other teams with equal or better qualifications.

quote:

Should all 3 SEC teams go to the playoffs and why?



No, it devalues the regular season IMO. The worst possible outcome of the playoff is a devaluation of the "must win" atmosphere of great college games. We, as fans, should really not want important losses to be rendered functionally irrelevant by an end of season playoff that matters more than a conference championship.

The only team that should get in under those circumstances would be the SEC Champ (Auburn as the OP listed).

quote:

Do you believe the fans of the Team that didn't make the playoffs have the right to be mad?



Not if only conference champs are making playoff and especially not if only one or zero loss conference champs are in the playoff. As a fan of 2006 LSU I thought they were the best team in the country but they were and should have been fairly disqualified from NC consideration by losing heads up to Florida, the team that won the SEC.

Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5211 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:50 am to
The thought, that the SEC will get 2 or more tams in each year is absurd. The Playoff is a way to make sure that if all possible 4 of the 5 P5 brands are represented.

The only way I see a league getting 2 is one of them would have to have a full game advantage over 2 of the P5 champs and then at that it would be questionable for the commitee.

Example.

Champ
ACC. FSU. 12-1
BIG. MSU. 11-2
B12. UT. 10-2
PAC. UCLA. 12-1
SEC. UF. 12-1

Non Champ
LSU. 12-1. Loss in conf CG

at this point LSU might get in in over UT or MSU , but I highly doubt it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Who won the SEC champ game? That will be only team in. I do not think the SEC or any conference will get 2 in, nor should they, unless they are 12-1 and won all games by 21 plus and lost the SECCG like the Kick 6.




Ok, but let's say Auburn, and Georgia play for the SEC championship, and Auburn wins by 3 on a last second field goal. South Carolina loses by 1 to Georgia during the regular season and beats everybody else handily. Georgia has ONLY the loss in the SECCG, South Carolina has only the loss to Georgia by 1 and Auburn loses to South Carolina (their only loss)and Georgia during the regular season.

Still think Auburn should be the team to go?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:07 am to
quote:

I trust my eyes more than a game of an opponents opponents to determine my NCG, as what happened with OU, USC, LSU.



True. But didn't you think LSU and Alabama were the two best teams in the country in 2011? I did.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Not if only conference champs are making playoff and especially not if only one or zero loss conference champs are in the playoff.



Using a conference champion as the yardstick of greatness is a dangerous slope. I realize Notre Dame was not in a conference, but had they been, they would have been in the playoff in 2012. Do you really think they were one of the four best teams in college football that year?
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5170 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:48 am to
It is possible the following could even happen:

LSU/Bama/SC/GA all have 1 loss except the SEC Champ (whoever out of those you pick) would have 0 losses. Aub has a schedule that causes problems so I have them lose those games and not be in the scenario =) All other major conf champs and ND have 2 losses.

I would love this because then to prevent multiple SEC teams in the playoffs it would be obvious cheating on the commitees part.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Using a conference champion as the yardstick of greatness is a dangerous slope. I realize Notre Dame was not in a conference, but had they been, they would have been in the playoff in 2012. Do you really think they were one of the four best teams in college football that year?


This is where the age old argument comes…most deserving or best. Notre Dame might not have been the best, but they were most deserving.
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