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OT: Vanishing South Georgia

Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:17 am
dude has a pretty cool blog where he takes picture from a lot of the small towns in south georgia of old, abandonded building and what not..its pretty cool

LINK
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:24 am to
eta great link






This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 12:28 am
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:58 am to
That is an awesome site. He has one for North Georgia also.

Vanishing North Georgia
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14116 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:47 am to
IMHO we're seeing the end game if the interstate system in these photos. It started when they were completed and caused most of these towns to be bypassed by travelers....now its ending as ease of travel has made it much easier for the following generations to move and go to work in the urban centers. When the kids leave these towns...its eventually game over.

BTW...Mrs. Bonner in the Crawfordville pics used to not allow blacks to eat in her restaurant at least as late as the early 80's and made them eat in a separate room in the back. When my folks discovered that we quit eating there as well....
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:10 am to
Since when is Baldwin County "North Georgia" ?
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Since when is Baldwin County "North Georgia" ? 


It sure as shite ain't South Georgia. It's mostly north of the Fall Line ,and I didn't see a vanishing Middle Georgia.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46381 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:39 pm to
Well it sure as shite ain't North either. It's the geographic center of the state, actually.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:27 pm to
This is just this one photographer's definition of where North/South Georgia is. I bet he only planned on doing South Georgia, but it was popular so he did another, and just kept it simple with north or South of the fall line.

But, that raises an interesting question.......

What does everyone consider north or south Georgia? Where do you imagine the boundaries?



Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:31 pm to
Well, the photographer has Laurens County on the South GA page. And I'm inclined to agree that it's inbetween those two counties, where the kaolin quarries stop.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:37 pm to
Probably there shouldn't be a definite line..... where on one side your in south GA and on the other, you're in north GA.

Probably there's a lot of overlap. SOme places on the map where your not really in either.

Also, you have to add in Middle, West, and East Georgia, i think.

I'd draw a big square around Macon and call that Middle GA. The square to the right of that (with some overlap) over to Augusta would be East GA. on the left side, over to COlumbus, that'd be West GA. Then.......the areas of the state north and south of these three overlapping quadrants would be north GA and south GA respectively. In my mind.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

K9

Aren't you studying soil and water science or something like that?

Tell us about the fall line that splits the state and how it used to be the ocean shoreline millions of years ago. And soil types, and aquifers, and that kind of thing on either side. I love that type of stuff. What do you got?
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:45 pm to
My spatial thought process is pretty similar, Jefferson. "North Georgia" (or at least non-South Georgia) stretches further on the West side of the state due to how the fall line impacts topography (think how there are some pretty large hills near Lagrange, but if you go 200 miles nearly due East to Millen, it is significantly flatter).

As a geography nerd I find this stuff interesting as hell.
Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2554 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:51 pm to
I identify three "regions" - South Georgia, the Georgia Piedmont, and the North Georgia Mountains. Similar to this map:



I also just refer to anywhere south of the fall line and not on the coast as "Hell."
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Tell us about the fall line that splits the state and how it used to be the ocean shoreline millions of years ago. And soil types, and aquifers, and that kind of thing on either side. I love that type of stuff. What do you got?




Yeah, so the fall line basically separates the peidmont from the coastal plain/flatwoods. the appalachians and piedmont (foothills) were created when Africa rammed into North America during pangea. 300 mya (maybe off on this numner) the oceans started to recede away from the Peidmont and eventually into their present location...what was left behind from the ocean receding was a lot of sandy, ocean sediment soils. This is why the soils north of the fall line have more clay content (ie. longer time to weather down to secondary minerals/ soil development) compared to the more recent, sandy deposits souht of the fall line, that have low nutrients and are more well drained.

the biggest aquifer in georgia is probably the Floridan Aquifer, and it has formed in the sandy coatsal plains. In the peidmont you have to deal with the saprolite, which is kind of guessing game, and doesnt produce as much gallons as a sandy aquifer.


i'm drunk so excuse the bad spelling.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 3:55 pm to
Damn.......Check out K9 all grown up and shite.

quote:

the oceans started to recede away from the Peidmont and eventually into their present location...what was left behind from the ocean receding was a lot of sandy, ocean sediment soils. This is why the soils north of the fall line have more clay content (ie. longer time to weather down to secondary minerals/ soil development) compared to the more recent, sandy deposits souht of the fall line, that have low nutrients and are more well drained.


Crazy to imagine Augusta, macon, Columbus, etc as beach front property. The waves, currents, and tides crushing everything south of there and turning it into sand..... that's why it's well water for the coastal plain from aquifers and those above the fall line are more dependent on the lakes for water, right?

Damn. Imagine pre-historic sharks and whatever else swimming in waters on top of what is now Waynesboro and Valdosta and Thomasville, etc. Crazy....

Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:05 pm to


yeah man i love this shite.


quote:

that's why it's well water for the coastal plain from aquifers and those above the fall line are more dependent on the lakes for water, right?



the use of more wells in south georgia are definitely due to easy access to a big aquifer, and easier soil to auger. However, the use of lakes and dams in the north are in most caeses due to large metropolis' needing a lot of water. you can still drill successful wells in the piedmont, but it's not as easy.



also, dams frick up a lot of shite.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

As a geography nerd I find this stuff interesting as hell.

Me too. And the geography ties into K9's area of expertise as well......

Examples: Oglethorpe builds a settlement in Savannah and then sends a crew up the River to see what's there. Eventually they couldn't go any further because of the waterfalls they hit, so they stopped. And where they had to stop became a place called "Augusta". Same for Macon and Columbus. The navigable ending points of their respective rivers...

I love this stuff.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:14 pm to
In the old days, anyone that had a (912) area code lived in South Georgia. Anyone with a (706) was considered North. I still use this to this day. The Lake Country was always considered North to us because of a lack of gnats and soil type.


I know using area codes isn't a precise way of determining location.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25651 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

you can still drill successful wells in the piedmont,


I've had my well for 35 years, but got on County water prolly 25 years ago. Wish we could get natural gas ran down our road... Propane sucks...

I've got county water, AT&T Uverse cable but no natural gas ...

At least with my well I can irrigate my garden & lawn anytime I want to with no water restrictions...
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23953 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:16 pm to
red clay= north ga, imo.


and i have a 912 number, so i like that theory as well.

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