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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:47 am
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:47 am
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:52 am to TheCheshireHog
I saw the thread title last night and got excited for their analysis of the game. I was disappointed.
I thought it was funny how we're discussing the Texas Tech game in great detail over here, down to the density of the air, yet all of the responses over there were basically "Won't be close."
I thought it was funny how we're discussing the Texas Tech game in great detail over here, down to the density of the air, yet all of the responses over there were basically "Won't be close."
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:51 am to Stonehog
Yeah their fans are pretty arrogant these days. It's next to impossible to have an actual football discussion with some of them.
Lowspark is a very solid poster. I like talking with him when it comes to discussing the game and he gives a very good analysis in that thread as usual.
Lowspark is a very solid poster. I like talking with him when it comes to discussing the game and he gives a very good analysis in that thread as usual.
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:14 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Yeah their fans are pretty arrogant these days
What is funny is they have convinced themselves that Gus held back in the game last year.
That isn't the case, Gus took it personally when his calls about our open position didn't make it past Long's secretary, he has a grudge against Arkansas similar to the one Jimmie Johnson carried with him to Miami.
The difference is JJ was able to blow out Hatfield, Gus could not blow out Bert, it wasn't from a lack of effort on Gus' part.
Like Nutt, Arkansas is the game Gus has circled every year, will get his team up for every year, will be his superbowl every year.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:53 pm to TheCheshireHog
People really need to be careful about these season openers. In one of the great moments in Razorback football history I was at WMS in 1974 for the season opener against top ten Southern Cal. My recollection (I was a teenager then) is we weren't given much of a chance but ended up winning the game 22-7. We went on to have a mediocre year while Southern Cal (with Anthony Davis) never lost another game all season while beating Notre Dame in the classic comeback game, beating Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, and finishing first in the Coaches Poll.
I was at the Auburn game last year and you sensed with the opening drive it was going to be a ball game. A score on the opening drive for us and a break here and there and the complexion of the game could have been very different. Certainly Auburn being the solid favorite in the first game is no surprise as they should be but brimming overconfidence in a season opener against a conference foe is just plain dumb.
I was at the Auburn game last year and you sensed with the opening drive it was going to be a ball game. A score on the opening drive for us and a break here and there and the complexion of the game could have been very different. Certainly Auburn being the solid favorite in the first game is no surprise as they should be but brimming overconfidence in a season opener against a conference foe is just plain dumb.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 5:09 pm to Litigator
Gus Malzahn coached teams in season openers:
2013: Auburn 31 - Washington State 24 - W
2012: Arkansas State 34 - Oregon 57 - L
2011: Auburn 42 - Utah State 38 - W
2010: Auburn 52 - Arkansas State 26 - W
2009: Auburn 37 - Louisiana Tech 13 - W
2008: Tulsa 45 - UAB 22 - W
2007: Tulsa 35 - ULM 17 - W
2006: Arkansas 14 - USC 50 - L
He's played BCS schools to open his seasons 3 times with a record of 1-2. The one victory was within a single score.
2013: Auburn 31 - Washington State 24 - W
2012: Arkansas State 34 - Oregon 57 - L
2011: Auburn 42 - Utah State 38 - W
2010: Auburn 52 - Arkansas State 26 - W
2009: Auburn 37 - Louisiana Tech 13 - W
2008: Tulsa 45 - UAB 22 - W
2007: Tulsa 35 - ULM 17 - W
2006: Arkansas 14 - USC 50 - L
He's played BCS schools to open his seasons 3 times with a record of 1-2. The one victory was within a single score.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:52 pm to Killean
For all the Auburn lurkers....
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:44 am to OSqueal
Our 3 RBs had 283 total yards on them last year. They averaged 6 Yards per rush, and Korliss Marshall didn't get a single carry even with his 87 yard KR so that's not factored in.
I think we'll be able to score on them. Hopefully we wont gift them two possessions with turnovers from our backup QB this year. If we can play LSU to the wire in Baton Rouge then we can give them a game.
I know our first game was only ULL last year and they're no Auburn, but we played one of our best games of the season in the first game last year. Interested to see what phase II of the offense that they said they're installing looks like
I think we'll be able to score on them. Hopefully we wont gift them two possessions with turnovers from our backup QB this year. If we can play LSU to the wire in Baton Rouge then we can give them a game.
I know our first game was only ULL last year and they're no Auburn, but we played one of our best games of the season in the first game last year. Interested to see what phase II of the offense that they said they're installing looks like
Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:09 am to gohogs141
I don't hold any sort of grudge against Auburn or Gus. Frankly, I would have preferred Gus over BB. Doesn't matter now; I support the coach we have and our team.
BUT, I think we have the horses to stick with them and make this a ball-game. My gut tells me that we will keep it close for 3 quarters but get finished off in the fourth ; losing by 14 or so.
Hope I'm wrong.
BUT, I think we have the horses to stick with them and make this a ball-game. My gut tells me that we will keep it close for 3 quarters but get finished off in the fourth ; losing by 14 or so.
Hope I'm wrong.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:02 am to TheCheshireHog
The Auburn fans have convinced themselves that Gus "held back" against Arkansas last year because they only attempted 8 passes.
Logic is not Auburn's strong suit, because while they only passed for 118 yards against Arkansas, Marshall was 11-16 for only 97 yards against Alabama. I really don't think Gus was holding anything back against Bama.
A week later, Marshall was 9-11 for 132 yards in the SEC championship game. Do Auburn fans think Gus was "holding back" and using a vanilla gameplan?
To claim that Gus used a dumbed down gameplan just for Arkansas because he only passed it 8 times is pretty stupid.
Logic is not Auburn's strong suit, because while they only passed for 118 yards against Arkansas, Marshall was 11-16 for only 97 yards against Alabama. I really don't think Gus was holding anything back against Bama.
A week later, Marshall was 9-11 for 132 yards in the SEC championship game. Do Auburn fans think Gus was "holding back" and using a vanilla gameplan?
To claim that Gus used a dumbed down gameplan just for Arkansas because he only passed it 8 times is pretty stupid.
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:00 am to Stonehog
We only passed 10 times in our 27-10 win over #2 auburn in 2006. Wonder if he was holding back then too?
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:05 am to Stonehog
This game reminds me a lot of 2006.
Stacked backfield, mediocre QB, mediocre defense with one elite pass rusher. High ranked Auburn team.
Stacked backfield, mediocre QB, mediocre defense with one elite pass rusher. High ranked Auburn team.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:06 pm to Stonehog
I love this post in that thread. Gus throws 11 times in the SECCG and we're the imbeciles. It's like they don't actually watch any of their own games or don't actually know what they're watching. I'm not sure which one it is.
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I read their thread earlier when I saw it mentioned in this thread. That delusion tickled me. To reiterate your point, Gus threw the ball 9 times, but he wasn't holding anything back? What imbeciles.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:57 pm to TheCheshireHog
Aubbies aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. They've been conditioned to spew the defensive Aubie little brother bullshite for decades very few of them have the ability to critically think and objectively analyse anything and especially if it involves their own teams.
When everyone buys into the lie and in to overt cheating you have to say the same things or people start questioning.
When everyone buys into the lie and in to overt cheating you have to say the same things or people start questioning.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 2:01 pm to TheCheshireHog
Lol @ Rabern57 lurking and finding this thread. This will be fun to use against him and others that bitch about hog fans talking about auburn on the rant.
Him and the goon that first agreed with him in that thread are among the shittiest auburn posters.
Him and the goon that first agreed with him in that thread are among the shittiest auburn posters.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:06 pm to DocHog
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Frankly, I would have preferred Gus over BB.
I'm going to preface this by that I think this upcoming year will be more indicative of how good a coach Gus actually is. I know this could end up as a slippery slope, but Auburn should have have been 9-3 and gone to the Outback/Capital-One bowl last year. That Georgia game was a straight up fluke, and Saban, in my opinion, did a really poor job managing the last bit of their game. I didn't think they'd be in the BCSNC game, but I was aware that they could be good. Jim Harris wrote an article in a preseason booklet that mentioned "some people in Alabama think Auburn will be better than expected"; it made sense if you thought who their coach was and the kind of players and scheme they'd run.
Anyway, they're obviously loaded pretty much everywhere, and if they destroy everybody, then I might think what could have been. . .although, no matter how good Gus may be, he'd probably always be able to recruit better at Auburn based solely on their location.
Our starters should be able to hang with theirs, but they are much deeper probably everywhere. Should something happen to 1(and at the absolute most 2) of our LB's, CB's, or safeties, I think we'd be in trouble. If we lose by 17 or more, I'll be disappointed. I'll be surprised if we win, but if we lose by 7 or so, I think we'll finish a lot better than what most folks are predicting.
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:30 pm to RazorbackLaw501
I think we have to find an answer at Center and who is going to lead the OL and make adjustment calls on the line before the snap. In my opinion it is our biggest question mark. I think we'll be able to handle their DL better, we'll have better options to throw to, they won't have as good as run game and they lost some really good OL so Marshall won't have as many open lanes to run through, we'll blitz him into a coma. Marshall isn't a great passer and we should harass him into mistakes.
I think our secondary will step it up, there's really not much worse they can get.
I think our secondary will step it up, there's really not much worse they can get.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:25 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Yeah, I don't know what the problem is with the C. You'd think we could just plug in Charpentier or Smothers. I know we have one of the best coaching them, so that at least is semi-comforting.
As for Auburn, I think Marshall will be improved as a passer, and he has some weapons at WR, too. Their O-line may have the best C in football, and they return 3 other starters. They have a 5-star RB signee, and some other veterans to boot.
I really believe that our defense is going to wow a lot of skeptics this upcoming season. A pretty strong line will be constantly bull rushing, and the 1st team linebackers already look more aggressive and seem to be tackling better in he spring game. I know I sound like a broken record, but(as long as no nepotism or what have you is going on) you don't stay on a defensive guru's staff for 6 years if you can't coach the secondary; Clay Jennings did just that.I think we'll see Mitchell and Hines ball hawking, taking better angles, and making hard, sound tackles as the year progresses.
As for Auburn, I think Marshall will be improved as a passer, and he has some weapons at WR, too. Their O-line may have the best C in football, and they return 3 other starters. They have a 5-star RB signee, and some other veterans to boot.
I really believe that our defense is going to wow a lot of skeptics this upcoming season. A pretty strong line will be constantly bull rushing, and the 1st team linebackers already look more aggressive and seem to be tackling better in he spring game. I know I sound like a broken record, but(as long as no nepotism or what have you is going on) you don't stay on a defensive guru's staff for 6 years if you can't coach the secondary; Clay Jennings did just that.I think we'll see Mitchell and Hines ball hawking, taking better angles, and making hard, sound tackles as the year progresses.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:44 am to RazorbackLaw501
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you don't stay on a defensive guru's staff for 6 years if you can't coach the secondary; Clay Jennings did just tha
good point
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:15 pm to hawgfaninc
I like how we're both discussing each other's threads on each of our boards lol
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I guess losing one OT = some OL to them. Must be that Arkansas math at work.
Also love how they automatically assume that Tre was our only running back worth a damn
I'm of the opinion that Marshall will wow some people this year with his throwing as well as his running. Not saying he'll be Peyton Manning or anything, but I'm confident he'll be much improved.
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