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Is the SEC Baseball Tournament Irrelevant or at least Counter-Productive?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:30 pm
Alabama was a Tuesday loser. They're playing today.
aTm was a Tuesday loser. They're playing today
Vanderbilt was 2 and out. They're in the Super Regional.
Florida the consensus top team in the league, made the tourney final, got a national seed, and were two and out.
LSU won the tournament, played themselves into a national seed, and is still alive but lost last night.
Arkansas beat Ole Miss twice. Arkansas is gone. Ole Miss has to win once to get through.
The only team that basically played like shite in the tournament and also shite the bed in their regional was South Carolina.
aTm was a Tuesday loser. They're playing today
Vanderbilt was 2 and out. They're in the Super Regional.
Florida the consensus top team in the league, made the tourney final, got a national seed, and were two and out.
LSU won the tournament, played themselves into a national seed, and is still alive but lost last night.
Arkansas beat Ole Miss twice. Arkansas is gone. Ole Miss has to win once to get through.
The only team that basically played like shite in the tournament and also shite the bed in their regional was South Carolina.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:39 pm
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:33 pm to lsutigers1992
Having it is better than not having it, but it typically doesn't mean much.
Its cool that lsu keeps winning it, but I don't place a lot of importance or prestige on those tourney wins.
Its cool that lsu keeps winning it, but I don't place a lot of importance or prestige on those tourney wins.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:33 pm to ProjectP2294
Probably does have some effect.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:34 pm to lsutigers1992
South Carolina has done pretty terribly in the SEC Tournament recently. Pretty sure both years we won the CWS we went 0-2 in the SEC tournament.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:34 pm to ProjectP2294
I believe I heard them say Saturday that Gaspard said he was fine not making it to the "real" tournament because his team got rested and didn't waste any pitchers.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:36 pm to lsutigers1992
I like some version of the ACC model. Maybe an initial play-in day for lower seeds, but the top teams go in knowing they're guaranteed 3 games in 4 days (chance to keep pitchers in their weekly routine before the NCAAs the following week), with a one-game championship on Sunday.
Would be more attractive for fans, too, as they could travel knowing with certainty that their team will be playing 3-4 days.
Would be more attractive for fans, too, as they could travel knowing with certainty that their team will be playing 3-4 days.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:40 pm to GoldenFlakes
I think it helps LSU, historically.
But then there's Ole Miss. The prevailing thought is that LSU "stole" Ole Miss's national seed. Yet, if Miss State wins tonight (and they don't choke vs. a team that traveled like 3,000 miles), they still host a Super Regional.
But then there's Ole Miss. The prevailing thought is that LSU "stole" Ole Miss's national seed. Yet, if Miss State wins tonight (and they don't choke vs. a team that traveled like 3,000 miles), they still host a Super Regional.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:41 pm to lsutigers1992
It may be enough to help a team make a regional. That's about it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:43 pm to Jobu93
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It may be enough to help a team make a regional. That's about it.
Host--probably
Make it--aTm was the last team in and got shut out on Tuesday
Arkansas arguably played themselves into a 2, perhaps. But then Alabama still got a 2 after losing on Tuesday.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:59 pm to lsutigers1992
Baseball is a fickle sport. Highly doubtful you go on the 11-1 run you need to win the SEC tourney and the CWS.
It all catches up.
It all catches up.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:36 pm to cjared036
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Baseball is a fickle sport. Highly doubtful you go on the 11-1 run you need to win the SEC tourney and the CWS.
It all catches up.
LSU won the SECT and CWS in 1993, 2000, and 2009. Fresno State did it in 2008. Texas did it in 2002. From 2000 to the present, of the teams that won the CWS that had conference tournaments (7 teams), 4 won their conference tournaments. The teams who didn't were Texas in 2005 and USC in 2010 and 2011. It's much more likely than you think and has happened on numerous occasions. You don't have to go 11-1 either. In 2009, LSU lost 1 game in the SECT and 1 in the championship series. In 2005, Texas lost the opening game of their tournament and a game in the supers. You can potentially lose up to 5 games (1 conference tournament, 1 regional, 1 super regional, 1 bracket format CWS, and 1 in championship series) and still win the whole thing. It is not highly unlikely a team can go on a 15 game run where they win 12 or 13 games.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:47 pm to lsutigers1992
LSU played their way into a national seed but Vandy or SC probably could have had they gone really deep. There is generally some movement up or down in seeding as a result of the tourney. If you are in a position to do so, coaches rest their players some during the SEC tourney. But whether it is relevant or not is irrelevant. Coaches would not want to go without playing for 2 weeks going into the NCAA Regionals.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:21 pm to ProjectP2294
We should play it a week before selection Sunday instead of draining our teams pitchers.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:29 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:9 of 10 SEC teams played or are playing in the finals of their regional. The pitchers must be OK.
We should play it a week before selection Sunday instead of draining our teams pitchers.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:32 pm to lsutigers1992
Pretty irrelevant for most teams imo, we usually always play like crap in Hoover and really have never put much emphasis at all on it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:47 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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We should play it a week before selection Sunday instead of draining our teams pitchers.
impossible
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:50 pm to CayceCock13
quote:So had SC done what LSU did and got a national seed as a result of winning the tournament, you would still think it irrelevant? Ole Miss, Vandy and SC were all in a position to do what LSU did (secure a national seed). I know Tanner usually relaxed at Hoover but he usually had his spot sewn up. Not this year though.
Pretty irrelevant for most teams imo, we usually always play like crap in Hoover and really have never put much emphasis at all on it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:15 pm to Diamondawg
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9 of 10 SEC teams played or are playing in the finals of their regional. The pitchers must be OK.
4 of those teams went 0-1 or 0-2. Some of those games were a race to see who wanted to lose more.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:20 pm to lsutigers1992
IMO it probably helped UK get on a strong enough run to make a regional final. I'd rather have it then not have it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:24 pm to lsufball19
Pitching didn't matter back then. 
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 4:26 pm
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