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"Arkansas can't out-Bama Bama or out-Lsu Lsu"

Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:02 am
Posted by Stonehog
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I was just watching College Football Live and they were talking about this, and it's been beaten to death ever since Bielema got here. I'm just curious why people think we should have to beat those two teams every year to be successful.

Posters who believe that Arkansas can't be successful playing the same style as Bama and Lsu, why do you believe this and why do you think it matters?
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:03 am to
'Croots.
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Yea with Auburn and Alabama doing what they are, it won't matter what style you play.
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:04 am to
Just beating someone would be a start.
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:05 am to
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'Croots


'Splain
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:05 am to
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Posters who believe that Arkansas can't be successful playing the same style as Bama and Lsu, why do you believe this and why do you think it matters?


It's pretty obvious that statement isn't true about LSU so I'm not really sure why they're included in that statement.

We couldn't beat Bama with the best passing game in the SEC either so I don't really think they're going to be our measuring stick.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:06 am to
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I'm just curious why people think we should have to beat those two teams every year to be successful.


Depends on your definition of success.

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Posters who believe that Arkansas can't be successful playing the same style as Bama and Lsu, why do you believe this and why do you think it matters?


Because LSU and Bama have better coaching and recruit at a level Arkansas never could regardless of success.

Arkansas' biggest problem is that without Texas and Missouri to feed them players anymore, they cant recruit for dick. There just isnt a lot of talent in Arkansas and what little there is is often swept up by other programs.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 12:08 am
Posted by Crimson G
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:07 am to
I think Arkansas can be successful playing the same style as Bama and LSU. I just think that unless there's some recruiting revolution at Arky, there will always be a significant talent differential which will cause Arkansas to lose against Bama and LSU most years. But that is NOT to say that you can't be successful over-all. Sometimes being the SEC West is a curse because it's so competitive.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:08 am to
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Arkansas' biggest problem is that without Texas and Missouri to feed them players anymore, they cant recruit for dick.


Because Missouri has always been a feeder state for Arkansas football.

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:08 am to
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It's pretty obvious that statement isn't true about LSU so I'm not really sure why they're included in that statement.


That's what is so frustrating, it wasn't our offense that lost the game against Lsu last year.

Every SEC national champion except for Auburn 2010 had a great defense, so I don't understand why the offense Arkansas plays is so important. It's our defense that needs to improve.
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:08 am to
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Roger Klarvin


An Aggie nailed something besides someone of the same gender for once
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:09 am to
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Arkansas' biggest problem is that without Texas and Missouri to feed them players anymore, they cant recruit for dick.


Yes, because those Bama and LSU defenses are built on the backs of Texas recruits.
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:09 am to
"Only Bama can out-Bama Bama"
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:09 am to
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"Arkansas can't out-any school from the SEC"


FIFY
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:10 am to
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Because LSU and Bama have better coaching and recruit at a level Arkansas never could regardless of success.


But why do people think those two teams are so special just for Arkansas? No one ever asks if Ole Miss can beat Bama with their style of offense.
Posted by NGATiger
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:11 am to
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Yes, because those Bama and LSU defenses are built on the backs of Texas recruits.


He means A&M mostly, but LSU recruits Texas pretty well also. Bama has also snagged some big recruits out of there lately. Arky? Eh.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:11 am to
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That's what is so frustrating, it wasn't our offense that lost the game against Lsu last year. Every SEC national champion except for Auburn 2010 had a great defense, so I don't understand why the offense Arkansas plays is so important. It's our defense that needs to improve.


The thing I find most humorous about that statement, besides the whole LSU part, is that people act like we're supposed to be upset about that. So you're saying I can't beat two schools with my style but I'm good to go against the other 11? I think we'll survive with those odds.
Posted by NGATiger
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:12 am to
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But why do people think those two teams are so special just for Arkansas? No one ever asks if Ole Miss can beat Bama with their style of offense.



Because Bert had an offense that was basically LSU/Bama North at Wisconsin
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:12 am to
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Because Missouri has always been a feeder state for Arkansas football.


Arkansas recruited pretty well in St. Louis, Kansas City and southern Missouri as a whole back in the 80s.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:13 am to
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But why do people think those two teams are so special just for Arkansas? No one ever asks if Ole Miss can beat Bama with their style of offense.


It's mainly just people parroting something that they've heard elsewhere.
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