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re: What conspiracy theories do you believe to be true and why?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:39 pm to Mizzeaux
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:39 pm to Mizzeaux
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Bringing those poor bastards in via rail. That's the way to go. It's the best transport method for a war machine.
And nobody would say a thing in these days of instant global video, right? I was sincerely hoping for a series of secret FEMA detainee camps in Wyoming and Montana. That would actually be more believable.
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:23 pm to The Spleen
Was more than just oil as a resource. It was spheres of influence and making sure that oil is traded in dollars making sure we stay the reserve currency. I don't have a problem with the invasion argument if you say it is super important for our economy since we no longer make anything. I just find it sad how stupid and easily manipulated people are in this country that they will believe anything they are told to believe. Like we needed to attack Iraq for WMD.
Its like they don't even stop to think for themselves. Oh Fox News said it...well im a red brain color idiot so that's good enough for me! What Msnbc said Obama needed to bail out the banksters and all of his wars and proxy wars are okay because he cares about real change..well I am a blue brain color idiot so that's good enough for me!
Which brings me to the conspiracy theory that our presidents are puppets funded by people with far greater power than blue and red team career politicians and they would never allow someone who wasn't going to play their game to make it that far up the totem pole. That when you go into that voting booth you don't have a choice, or you would be able to vote for someone who isn't a blue and red team sucker fish. Someone who wasn't vetted by those powers and allowed to rise to the top.
If the elections were real the politicians would go to the people for votes instead of allowing corporations to give mass donations. Politicians wouldn't be there for life but given term limits. Just remember every time you vote you red or blue team all you are really doing is voting for the status quo of corruption. You are voting for the power of the state. And the state only gains power every year, it never relinquishes it.
Its like they don't even stop to think for themselves. Oh Fox News said it...well im a red brain color idiot so that's good enough for me! What Msnbc said Obama needed to bail out the banksters and all of his wars and proxy wars are okay because he cares about real change..well I am a blue brain color idiot so that's good enough for me!
Which brings me to the conspiracy theory that our presidents are puppets funded by people with far greater power than blue and red team career politicians and they would never allow someone who wasn't going to play their game to make it that far up the totem pole. That when you go into that voting booth you don't have a choice, or you would be able to vote for someone who isn't a blue and red team sucker fish. Someone who wasn't vetted by those powers and allowed to rise to the top.
If the elections were real the politicians would go to the people for votes instead of allowing corporations to give mass donations. Politicians wouldn't be there for life but given term limits. Just remember every time you vote you red or blue team all you are really doing is voting for the status quo of corruption. You are voting for the power of the state. And the state only gains power every year, it never relinquishes it.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:31 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Which brings me to the conspiracy theory that our presidents are puppets funded by people with far greater power than blue and red team career politicians and they would never allow someone who wasn't going to play their game to make it that far up the totem pole. That when you go into that voting booth you don't have a choice, or you would be able to vote for someone who isn't a blue and red team sucker fish. Someone who wasn't vetted by those powers and allowed to rise to the top.
You can. They just stand no chance of winning.
The powers that be let us have just enough to keep us happy so we don't peel back the veil. I don't think they have absolute control, but they certainly direct the current that dictates our course. They keep us all as good little workers, use pressure to suck the soul out of us and hanging on by our nails so we may have some kind of life when we retire. It's a futile existence, but somehow we're grateful for it.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Damn, and I thought my outlook was depressing 
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:41 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Damn, and I thought my outlook was depressing
There's some truth to it. The world works if you consume and consume, and want more. You're chastised if you don't participate in this materialistic charade. I think our whole govt. and economy is based upon it. I think most of us want to feel normal and consider that a success. Social pressure based on our norms is used to make us conform. Think about the old American dream.
Those who chase fads and follow others don't change the world, but that's exactly how we're shaped and trained. To conform, to follow, to be good little workers. It's all by design. Go in debt to buy the new shiny object, stay in debt so you can't ever truly live the life you could live if you're free.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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use pressure to suck the soul out of us and hanging on by our nails so we may have some kind of life when we retire. It's a futile existence, but somehow we're grateful for it.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sheesh. Prozac, maybe? Or bourbon. Yeah, bourbon would be my recommendation. Lots of it, and often.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There's some truth to it. The world works if you consume and consume, and want more. You're chastised if you don't participate in this materialistic charade. I think our whole govt. and economy is based upon it. I think most of us want to feel normal and consider that a success. Social pressure based on our norms is used to make us conform. Think about the old American dream.
Those who chase fads and follow others don't change the world, but that's exactly how we're shaped and trained. To conform, to follow, to be good little workers. It's all by design. Go in debt to buy the new shiny object, stay in debt so you can't ever truly live the life you could live if you're free.
Okay, but the alternative is the first 95,000 years of human existence.
This is the price we pay for improving our quality of existence. Our society requires materialism and unequal distributions of power. Whether you're completely free and chasing wild game with a spear or working 8-5 for 50 years and paying bills, life is a rat race. I just prefer the option where I don't die of a dental infection at 25.
In the end, on a universal scale, there is zero evidence that life has any objective meaning regardless.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Okay, but the alternative is the first 95,000 years of human existence.
During which we were doing what? Waiting for some cheesedick to figure out that seeds grow into plants and you can capture animals instead of following them around?
Nah.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The world works if you consume and consume, and want more.
It also works with a lot of people not doing that.
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You're chastised if you don't participate in this materialistic charade.
Chastised? By who? That's a weird statement.
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I think our whole govt. and economy is based upon it.
My day job involves defeating evil-doers. My moonlighting job is about providing for my family. I don't see either as a "materialistic charade", and I don't think I'm alone or close to it.
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Social pressure based on our norms is used to make us conform.
This is just gobbledygook.
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Go in debt to buy the new shiny object, stay in debt so you can't ever truly live the life you could live if you're free.
I'm not in debt. Does that mean I'm free? Or do I need to kill my family to truly be free? I'm confused.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:54 pm to KSGamecock
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Waiting for some cheesedick to figure out that seeds grow into plants and you can capture animals instead of following them around?
We're slow learners
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
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We're slow learners
That's just what they want the sheeple to think. The truth is that we were created not that long ago by the alien inhabitants of an as-of-yet-undiscovered planet with an extremely eliptical orbit who cross-bred their DNA with apes to create humans (in their image) so they could enslave us and make us mine gold. That explains all the old religions, why we don't see god today, why we can't explain those 95,000 years or find the missing links.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 12:00 am
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Okay, but the alternative is the first 95,000 years of human existence.
This is the price we pay for improving our quality of existence. Our society requires materialism and unequal distributions of power. Whether you're completely free and chasing wild game with a spear or working 8-5 for 50 years and paying bills, life is a rat race. I just prefer the option where I don't die of a dental infection at 25.
I think there is happiness in doing what you really want to do. Most of us don't do this, even though we have grand plans when we're young to do just that.
Whether you're throwing spears or a cubicle jockey, if you're happy and fulfilled, that's about all that matters. Unfortunately in the USA, most people are dissatisfied with their jobs/careers where they spend a sizable amount of their time. Most, probably because of debt or living above their means.
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he October jobs report, released today by the Labor Department, showed a promising figure: employers added 204,000 positions, which is more than expected, last month. That’s positive news, of course—but one question remains: are they good jobs?
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:00 am to finestfirst79
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Social pressure based on our norms is used to make us conform.
This is just gobbledygook.
It's actually pretty easy to understand. Says a lot that you can't.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It's actually pretty easy to understand. Says a lot that you can't.
Assuming "social pressure" drives me, what's the preferred "abnormal", then? Gathering fruits and nuts?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote: Social pressure based on our norms is used to make us conform. This is just gobbledygook.
It's actually pretty easy to understand. Says a lot that you can't.
Yea living in Houston I know EXACTLY what you mean.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:08 am to finestfirst79
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Assuming "social pressure" drives me, what's the preferred "abnormal", then? Gathering fruits and nuts?
Social pressure molds society. I don't think any sane person would argue otherwise and I have no idea why this is news to you. Or anyone.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Social pressure molds society. I don't think any sane person would argue otherwise and I have no idea why this is news to you. Or anyone.
And I have no idea what you're talking about. I do notice, though, that you didn't answer the question. I reject the notion that social pressure drives my decisions, but even if I accepted that as fact, what's your preference over it? Hunter/gatherers, I'm guessing?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:18 am to finestfirst79
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And I have no idea what you're talking about. I do notice, though, that you didn't answer the question. I reject the notion that social pressure drives my decisions
Now, that's funny. Social norms help shape everyone. quote:
, but even if I accepted that as fact, what's your preference over it? Hunter/gatherers, I'm guessing?
I have no idea idea what you do, so I can't answer that question. It's obviously something that makes you very angry though.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:21 am to finestfirst79
Having a perfectly good iPhone 4 and going out to get the brand new iphone5, for starters.
Its like this buddy I have. He has a flip phone, everywhere he goes people comment on it. So finally last week he switched to a smart phone.
Its like this buddy I have. He has a flip phone, everywhere he goes people comment on it. So finally last week he switched to a smart phone.
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