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Where are the other fanbases on the Rant getting their idea of the Coker hype?

Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:32 am
They're dead set on acting like we're praising him to be a stud. Are they reading it elsewhere? I'm pretty sure most of us here just agree he has solid potential, and expect him to be pretty damn average this year.

Yet they continue to act like we're hyping him through the roof.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:35 am to
I don't expect him to be pretty damn average fwiw. I expect the kid to be a solid quarterback. He's got the same tools as Mettenberger plus some athleticism.

But to answer your question, everyone hates a winner. Anything we say on the main board will be twisted into "bama arrogance"

They hate us cuz they ain't us.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:37 am to
I'd say something like 2600 yards with 23 TDs and maybe like 7 or 8 INTs is at best above average in today's game. And to clarify, those are numbers in the ball park of what I'm expecting. Completely irrelevant compared to the win column, but he'll be judged by the stats more.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:40 am to
It's a good question.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:40 am to
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They hate us cuz they ain't us.


Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:41 am to
They are assuming we are hyping him up but no one really has been. Fact is, we don't need him to throw for 350 yards and 4 tds to win. We just need him to complete a few and not throw interceptions. That's it.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:41 am to
There are reasons to be optimistic and reasons to be pessimistic. As fans, we tend to talk more about the former than the latter. Opposing fans will tend to focus on the latter.

I think most of us are cautiously optimistic though I am less so now than I was a few months ago. It doesn't matter how strong his arm is, if he struggles with accuracy I think our O will look a lot like '08
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:42 am to
Is be thrilled with those numbers. And you can't really compare his stats to "the norm" when speaking about expectations or effectiveness. We're one of the few balanced offenses left. Of he does what's asked of him then we'll make the playoffs. I'm very excited about this season. I think we have as good of a chance as anyone at bringing home the crystal. Do we have question marks? Sure, but everyone else does too. The key is we have more talent across the board than everyone else.

The 2 quarterbacks in the NC game last year were first year starters. The last two Heisman winners were first year starting quarterbacks. People love to say Coker hasn't proven anything and point to that as the reason we'll lose 3 or 4 games, but in reality, especially lately, that reason has proven more false than true. McCarron, Manziel, Newton, Marshall, Winston all brought home some sort of hardware in their first year under center at the D-1 level. It's a flawed argument.


I understand we can't point to that as the reason he'll be successful, but in the same light no one else can point to his inexperience as a reason he'll struggle.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:45 am to
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Is be thrilled with those numbers


Me too.

But everyone else seems to think we're hyping him as the next Heisman trophy winner.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:47 am to
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I think most of us are cautiously optimistic though I am less so now than I was a few months ago. It doesn't matter how strong his arm is, if he struggles with accuracy I think our O will look a lot like '08
I think it will look a lot better even if he struggles. We have far better skill position players on offense than we did back then. Our rb corps is better and receiver corps is better. Even though in 08 we had the best receiver in Julio, the overall corps is better now than it was in 08
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:49 am to
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But everyone else seems to think we're hyping him as the next Heisman trophy winner.
Deep down inside they know that we are going to be hard to beat regardless. What they should be concerned with it the new, nasty front 7. That's going to make more of a difference
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:50 am to
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Even though in 08 we had the best receiver in Julio, the overall corps is better now than it was in 08



Not just that, but I'm 90% sure that Junior Amari Cooper > Freshman Julio Jones, or will be anyway.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:51 am to
Our front 7 will be the nastiest in the country and it isn't going to be close. Thats going to really help the new guys in the secondary come along, by mid season this is going to be a nasty nasty defense.

Our second team D is littered with 5 stars, that's not particularly fair but IDGAF
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:54 am to
This year's unit still has a lot of inexperience though. 2015 will return more or less all the guys. Losing Ivory will end up being addition by subtraction.

But this year's front 7 should be nasty too.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:55 am to
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Not just that, but I'm 90% sure that Junior Amari Cooper > Freshman Julio Jones, or will be anyway.
The Coop vs. Julio debate will go on forever. I'm just glad we had both. The rest of the SEC is just glad they weren't at Bama at the same time.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:56 am to
Oh definitely. And there is an argument for both sides. Junior Julio could be > Junior Amari, but I think a Junior Amari is > a Freshman Julio, personally.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:57 am to
I like the fact that he got beat out by a freshman. Pure motivation. Doesn't matter if that fresh won a heismen.

He's a smart kid and knows that if he puts the work in he could get his shot at that freshman(now a soph).

Also like the fact that he grew up a Bama fan(at one point he was a part time sidewalker ). That adds passion. Plus you know he will put it all on the line for us.


I'm not saying he will dominate, but looking at our other QB's right now, I'd say its only fair to have some excitement over the kid.

The storyline is set, now we just gotta play it out.



This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:58 am to
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I think it will look a lot better even if he struggles. We have far better skill position players on offense than we did back then. Our rb corps is better and receiver corps is better. Even though in 08 we had the best receiver in Julio, the overall corps is better now than it was in 08


The wildcard is the OL. We're going to need better play up front than we got last year to help offset any drop-off in QB play
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:00 am to
I think it's crucial for our long term success to have kids from this state play key roles for us. Particularly in leadership positions like QB and MLB. Just look at the past few years. AJ, Julio, Barron, McClain, Mosley. I love having kids from Alabama play an integral role. We need those guys. The attitude is contagious to the out of state kids that simply can't understand how much bama football means to a lot of people. The in-state kids get it.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:02 am to
I think when Coker committed UA fans seemed overly excited because we all feared the void that was left after AJ graduated. No one was very excited about our options going into the spring and most believed that Coker is better than all the options currently on the team. I think that alone made some rival fans think we believed we had a 5 star future Heisman winner coming in for the 14 season because we believe Coker is good enough to push for starter. Truth be told our other options have not demonstrated any hope other than mop-up duty so any serviceable QB coming in that is better than what we have currently on the roster is exciting.
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