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I still think she winds up playing in the SEC. Cocks are already stacked but would not surprise me to see her land in the east at Georgia, Tennessee, or Kentucky.

The bigger question would be is if Dawn would recruit her in the first place? Team chemistry is building in Columbia and not sure if DD does not form distraction. Would DD be another Bone?







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This is crazy, but there were rumors of her not being happy at UNC back in January. I thought it had to be crazy, but several of her friends were spreading the word and I think the UNC staff kinda knew it was coming.

With regard to her possibily transferring to Carolina to play for Dawn ... hell yes. I wish it would happen. She's probably the best shooting guard in the country and let's not forget, Dawn believes in letting them transfer to wherever they want to, ala Kelsey Bone.

Additionally, it's also a well-known fact that two of her better friends, from AAU ball, and another two who played with her, are now playing for the Gamecocks.

I would love for us to get her if we have an open scholly available? I'm not sure we do, do we?






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This is crazy, but there were rumors of her not being happy at UNC back in January.


UNC seems to use ESPN to get the recruits then they transfer out after a year. Happened with "the bee" a few years ago.

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I would love for us to get her if we have an open scholly available?


Since she has to sit, it is not the 2014-2015 you have to worry about. The question is what scholarship the Cocks can offer in 2015-2016.






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I'm going to tell a little not-so-secret secret here but choose my words carefully.

I was in Dawn Staley's suite for the R Kelly Black Panties concert. Dawn never showed, she got sidetracked along the way and never made it to the box but ...

I just made a call to someone who is connected. Bottom line, we can chalk her off our board. She's most likely to transfer to Ga Tech although UGA is trying hard to get her to talk to them.

She is showing some interest in us through communications with some friends, but it is not likely to happen. When I asked for a percentage of a chance, I was told "less than 10%."

Some other things were said to reinforce the little to no chance that she'll end-up here, all good reasons, so now I;m not going to get my hopes up in the least. Matter of fact, you were right Grits, it just wouldn't work for reasons you've already implied.

Two things I can share is, and I quote, "first of all, she was homesick in Chapel Hill. Columbia is not that much closer to Norcross."

"She had close friends with her on the team at UNC, just as many as she might have at USC, if not more, and closer, friends. She recruited that class for UNC!"

The rest isn't important. Everyone is wishing her luck.

Our coaching staff is happy with what they've got, giddy even. I think you were right about the chemistry thing Grits.






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She's most likely to transfer to Ga Tech


That would be really out there unless she was an ENG or CS major

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UGA is trying hard to get her to talk to them.


Makes the most sense

Norcross to Atlanta = 0.50 hour drive time
Norcross to Athens = 1.00 hour drive time
Norcross to Knoxville = 3.25 hour drive time (visited the Vols earlier this week)
Norcross to Columbia = 3.25 hour drive time
Norcross to Nashville = 3.75 hour drive time
Norcross to Chapel Hill = 5.50 hour drive time
Norcross to Lexington = 5.75 hour drive time

Anybody know what she majored in at UNC?






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Norcross to Knoxville = 3.25 hour drive time (visited the Vols earlier this week)


Her Mother doing work evidently. Can't blame her.

If she is wants to play 3 1/2 hours away from home, she should come here. No, nevermind. But I can see why UT would try to get her.

She was a International/Intercultural Studies major at UNC was she not? Ga Tech has to offer that major. All schools offer that major these days, or some various discipline thereof.




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Yeah DeShields is a very talented player, but we'll already have the SEC POTY Mitchell and incoming ESPNU Hoopsgurlz 5-star Kaydra Duckett at the position. DeShields is IMO a better player than Duckett but that's a lot of premiere talent to share minutes at the 2 spot.

It would be an embarrass of riches type of thing to include DD, and also if she is really homesick and that's the reason for her unhappiness at UNC, I can't see her having a happier time in Columbia battling for minutes on the floor her entire time here...






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International/Intercultural Studies major


What is this major?

If it was the old days and International meant government service then Patterson School at UK makes the most sense. If it is like Communications (which seemed to be were all the women studied) Major then who knows.

Patterson School was big time because Centre College was a feeder at the undergrad level and it historically produced folks for international work in the diplomatic corps.






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What is this major?


Cheese Grits, first and foremost, see my mea culpa.

As far as what that major is, I think it is International Cultural studies, involves some language, etc. Not too focused on GINT to the best of my knowledge, but there is a course or two requirement probably.

Pretty much a worthless major I guess, unless you intend to do business overseas. At which point South Carolina excels because you do your undergraduate work in International Cultural studies with a minor in whatever Business, say marketing, and then you go after your International Business skin and you're probably marketable upon graduation, especially if you have the specific language.

The big one is African-American studies these days, and they overlap - but talk about worthless because instead of focusing on the African cultural side, it focuses on the late 18th Century exodus/slave side ... like 90%, which has been beaten to death.

A lot of kids are thinking global these days so they are doing China, Mideastern, Eastern European, etc., focused work and then specializing either in business or language or sometimes both, like Michael Roth and Spain for instance. Italy is big Western European too right now from what I hear.



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Cheese Grits, first and foremost, see my mea culpa.


Appreciate it, the Mizzou folks started that rumor and it gained steam because they kept saying it so much. It is actually pretty funny as I played most sports and came from a family of sports folks. In real life I am sorta a big fellow so I usually try to be more restrained like a bull in a china shop. I guess without the visual side it makes some think I am a woman or a very meek man.

I tried to reach you while you were in ban land to see if you were coming up for the USC @ UK baseball game but could not reach you. I remembered you said you had family in the UK area so was going to offer some hospitality.

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As far as what that major is, I think it is International Cultural studies


Which means it probably means not really studying cultures! Studying a culture means more that just studying a slice of their history for maybe 50 or 100 years and actually immersing yourself in it. Kids these days have all kinds of communication devices and yet they have no communication skills. God forbid kids learn how to think for solutions and not just answers.






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I was in Dawn Staley's suite for the R Kelly Black Panties concert. Dawn never showed, she got sidetracked along the way and never made it to the box but ...


God damn, who are you? I have some connected friends but shite... Hell, i am semi connected myself. And i dont doubt any of the stuff you say....






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A lot of kids are thinking global these days so they are doing China, Mideastern, Eastern European, etc., focused work and then specializing either in business or language or sometimes both, like Michael Roth and Spain for instance. Italy is big Western European too right now from what I hear.


One of my best friends was in the MIBs program for Russian years ago, they cancelled the program because Russia got too unstable and he flipped to Italian and his patents sent him to Italy for a crash course in the language. Lucky fricker.






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God damn, who are you? I have some connected friends but shite... Hell, i am semi connected myself. And i dont doubt any of the stuff you say....


I am ... old. :)

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One of my best friends was in the MIBs program for Russian years ago, they cancelled the program because Russia got too unstable and he flipped to Italian and his patents sent him to Italy for a crash course in the language. Lucky fricker.


Italy is happening right now, but I'm not sure it's good for us personally. My wife spent six weeks there a few weeks ago. (I was banned at the time, I got to spend two weeks with her and was ready to come home because we go over there a couple of times a year.)

The Italians are becoming more and more uppity with how they deal with us both here, and over there. Both my wife and I speak Italian, which makes it easier on us, and most Italians we do business with speak English, but they are still haughty these days for some reason. The country has turned ultra socialist over the past thirty years or so.

Still, were it me doing intercultural studies that might translate into business opportunities later in life, Italy or Israel would be my two choices, and maybe Germany as my third pick. Everyone is saying China, but I saw the Japanese thing happen back in the 70s and 80s and trying to work the Asian angle is tough, really tough. Same for Korea. Asian Americans dominate the field in that regard and Asians are so bigoted that if you are Japanese-American trying to work with the Chinese, or visa versa, it doesn't translate well and usually leads to more problems than it's worth. Koreans seem to be able to crossover some, but even they run into walls in Asian markets not their own.






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God damn, who are you? I have some connected friends but shite... Hell, i am semi connected myself. And i dont doubt any of the stuff you say.


Scrooster is correct, age has much to do with it. The longer you live the more connected you get. Also if you are old you came from a generation that was connected better as it was a smaller world and everybody really did know everybody. I know all kinds of folks and have seen all kinds of things just because I have been around long enough to have accumulated the memories.






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Looks like Deshields is going to give us a visit. Might be in the next week or so.

This is getting stranger by the minute but evidently distance and homesickness was not the issue at UNC.

Sure appears to be getting interesting. She actually called us and requested the visit for a sit down. Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Her Momma being a UT grad, I would think that gives them the upper hand here. Although it didn't when it came to UNC.






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Granted Georgia Tech is a great school and a free ride would be a huge plus - the Figgs girl went to Purdue for Engineering and won a NCAA NC in the process - but sounds like her major is not tech related so it negates the value of going to Georgia Tech.

My guess is she will find a home in the SEC (and SEC east to be specific) as it would be a great showcase for her talent. When she starts playing in 2015 - 2016 the SEC Network on ESPN will already have a full year under its belt and such a network will have a voracious appetite for content in the winter and spring programming slots.

Holly may be getting talent, but if she does not win I think the 2 in the east who are on the rise are South Carolina and Kentucky. If DD is opening up to look at the SEC it sticks in my mind that MM is the king of recruiting transfers. 2 years out is when he will need bodies to fill the spots lost this year and next. If she lands there it will not surprise me the way it may others.

Looking at the east you have so many options :

Dawn has shown she can build a program and it looks as if she feels comfortable she will make her career with the Cocks.

Holly has all the history but she needs to get to the promised land or other SEC teams will slowly eat away at the Vol base.

Matthew has that "aw shucks" thing down and he seems able to move UK to elite level.

Andy is running out of time and a NC would be the final stop in a long and illustrious career. Folks forget he is #2 behind Pat at getting to the Final Four with 5 appearances already.

Melanie is more than able at Vanderbilt and a free ride there would open doors will beyond basketball. With the sports history in DD's family you see many 2nd generation kids wind up at a school like Vandy or Northwestern.

Amanda can build a team in her image but just may not have the same level of attraction the other schools do. Gators are AAU so they would have academic clout if that matters to her parents.

Robin is just out of her element at this time. Unless the Tigers go big in pushing WBB just can not see them in the mix. Not knocking her program but it is still a school for the local girls and has yet to show they are more on the national level.






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You never know how these things might play out, and I'm sure Dawn's staff is just as beffudled as anyone this morning, but it is fun to imagine her playing here two seasons from now with the talent Staley is stock piling.

Then again, Dawn has a couple more McD's AAs in her sights for next year and we only lose what, two players next March?







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National Freshman of the Year Diamond DeShields will visit USC this weekend.





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Okay, so here is the latest ... things are changing fast, this whole thing is in flux and wheels are turning.

DeShields and her mother are here. They arrived just a little while ago.

Here's the scoop.

There is a young lady down in Powder Springs, Georgia, comes from a very well-to-do family, (her father is a big fan or Dawn Staley and a well-known coach in his own right, Omar Cooper. He runs the AOT program in Atlanta, the same one that produced DeShields), another point guard, named Te'a Cooper, who we're after big time. She is a future McD's AA in her own right, a 5* prospect and one of the top point guards in the country for next year's 2015 class - she could be #1 by the beginning of the season. She was an early commitment, a very early commitment, (like before her Fr year in HS), to UNC but she has since decommitted, this past December AFTER her visit here with A'ja. (More on that later.)

She and DeShields are very close friends, "like sisters." Omar, Te'a's Dad, is a major influence in DeShield's world right now and word is that they want to play together somewhere.

Both UT and we are recruiting Cooper, have been, and the word is that wherever DeShields decides to go, Cooper will follow and visa versa.

Ga Tech is out of it with Cooper so DeShields dropped Ga Tech from consideration and neither of them are fond of UGA after something rubbed Cooper the wrong way on a visit there last year. (Again, the whole homesickness thing was a smoke screen just to get away from UNC once Te'a decommitted from UNC in December. For both DeShields and Cooper the transfer was more about the loss of Hatchell to sickness, and a personality clash with the heir apparent who took over in Hatchell's absence.)

DeShield's mother is a UT grad, ran track there I think it was, but she is not pushing her daughter to UT and there appears to be a lot of love and respect for Staley from the Mom as well recently. A mutual athlete sort of thing. (Remember, DeShields never visited us so this is the first time they are all getting to know each other and evidently they really liked watching Staley catch the TD pass during the Spring Game broadcast.) So you've got DeSheild's Mom "Tisha," Cooper's Mom and Dad, and Staley all very friendly right now with Omar the key figure in all of this - the hub in the wheel so-to-speak although DeSheild's Dad, who was a major league player and is currently coaching AA ball somewhere, may fly in for the weekend IF he can get away for a few hours. He's friends with Omar.

The red carpet has been rolled-out for this weekend, everyone is optimistic over there, they've even got members from other departments involved.

This would be a major coup of epic proportions if we pull this off. Two more McD's AAs brought into the fold in one fell swoop of sorts.

ETA: I was just told that Jatari White, A'ja Wilson and Tea Cooper are all three pretty close as well. A'ja, Cooper and White are likely to visit (unofficial) with one another over the weekend along with DeShields, if they can get Cooper's Mom and Dad to make the drive. Here's the kicker. Cooper has already visited here once, the same weekend A'ja made her official visit ... or so I was told. She was low profile, but the coaches treated her just like they did A'ja and that impressed her.

Also, here is a video worth watching about the young Cooper lady if anyone thinks she might be a package deal only to get DeShields.

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Te'a Cooper ?@TeaCooper2 1h
South Carolina this weekend turn up gamecocks stand up lol



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Visit going well. Staley and the staff and the rest of the girls met with her and told her about their goals for the program here at SC. I'm told it went really well and you are reading this long before you're going to read it anywhere else, if ever, but here is how it went - the abbreviated version.

The theme all day is about where Staley has brought the program, from where it was, and then the main focus on where it is going. Everyone already on board are already on the same page and evidently it really impressed DeShields. Emphasis on something Steve Spurrier uses to recruit, to challenge these recruits to come do something here that has never been done before. Tennessee has already been there multiple times, South Carolina never has, help us get there and then dominate.

Word is DeShields was amazed, just totally in awe of how everyone has the same dream and how determined they are to make it happen and how far Staley has brought the program in this short period of time. Even her Mom was impressed, and they've still got tonight and tomorrow to go.

No one knows for sure, but the general thought right now is that Cooper might be our best recruiter as of today. Has to do with something that was said by Cooper about the Gamecocks, about going places.

You never know, and women will change their minds at the drop of a hat, but man oh man it is sounding more and more like Staley and Company are doing some work and very close to making this happen.

ETA: Some of the football players went goo goo over DeShields. She is evidently quite the charmer and she picked-up immediately on the boys giving her the goo goo eyes and was sort of giddy, very happy. One of our ballplayers in particular, after he met DeShields, declared he wanted to marry her one day to some of the guys standing around after she left. One of our big, "big," guys.



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