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First round picks by the stars.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm
From Eric Mateos's Twitter Feed:
Coming out of HS:
Blake Bortles ranked 44th QB in the 2010 class.
Khalil Mack had 1 offer out of HS. Buffalo. Unranked 2-star player.
Mike Evans unranked in 2011 class. 3 offers.
Eric Ebron 21st ranked TE in 2011 class.
Aaron Donald ranked 37th DT in 2010 class.
Kyle Fuller unranked CB in the 2010 class.
Calvin Pryor 31st ranked safety in 2011 class.
Dee Ford 62nd ranked OLB in 2009.
Darqueze Dennard unranked 2-star DB in 2010 class.
Marcus Smith unranked athlete in 2010.
Deone Bucannon 45th ranked safety in 2010.
Jimmie Ward was unranked 2-star safety in 2010
Bradley Roby unranked WR in 2010 class
or more accurately lack there of.
Coming out of HS:
Blake Bortles ranked 44th QB in the 2010 class.
Khalil Mack had 1 offer out of HS. Buffalo. Unranked 2-star player.
Mike Evans unranked in 2011 class. 3 offers.
Eric Ebron 21st ranked TE in 2011 class.
Aaron Donald ranked 37th DT in 2010 class.
Kyle Fuller unranked CB in the 2010 class.
Calvin Pryor 31st ranked safety in 2011 class.
Dee Ford 62nd ranked OLB in 2009.
Darqueze Dennard unranked 2-star DB in 2010 class.
Marcus Smith unranked athlete in 2010.
Deone Bucannon 45th ranked safety in 2010.
Jimmie Ward was unranked 2-star safety in 2010
Bradley Roby unranked WR in 2010 class
or more accurately lack there of.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:29 pm to DaleDenton
So our 2015 class, as of now, won't become 1st rounders?
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:38 pm to Pigfeet
No...but Korliss Marshall could be the first back taken in the 2016 draft
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:47 pm to Pigfeet
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So our 2015 class, as of now, won't become 1st rounders?
Huh?
By the numbers, it is close to a 50/50 shot of a first rounder being 4* or above or a 3* or below.
Meaning, evaluations by the coaching staff is still more important than stars given by websites.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:57 pm to DaleDenton
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Meaning, evaluations by the coaching staff is still more important than stars given by websites.
Or it could mean that other coaching staffs do more with lesser rated evaluated players, ours just went 0-8 in the SEC.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:59 pm to Pigfeet
God damn that's some tasty looking bait. You a-hole.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:39 pm to Pigfeet
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Or it could mean that other coaching staffs do more with lesser rated evaluated players, ours just went 0-8 in the SEC.
How much development could they do?
come'on pig
Posted on 5/9/14 at 4:34 pm to Pigfeet
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Or it could mean that other coaching staffs do more with lesser rated evaluated players, ours just went 0-8 in the SEC.
Either you troll your own teams board, or you go out of your way to be negative every chance you get.
Either way, you sir get a downvote.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 2:03 pm to DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 2:50 pm to RazorbackLaw501
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It doesn't take deep thought to figure out that Bielema and Maetos are salesmen. That's fine; part of their job is too market their "product". I just wouldn't take what they say about recruiting sites too seriously.
A person with decent critical thinking skills and reasoning ability would look at both sides of the argument, examine the data on their own, and form their own conclusions.
Statements like you must recruit in the top 10 to win the SEC is flawed. Yes, you must recruit well, but you do not have to recruit well according to website rankings to indeed recruit well. Many examples of them being wrong on both ends of the spectrum "top15" recruiting leading to losing seasons, "top 50" recruiting leading to one of the best teams in a league with "top20" recruiting teams in it, etc.
What is happening today is the sites or proponents of the sites are skewing the rankings to back up or justify claims like the above, they are 30 years behind basketball who has never had a NC without a McD AA on the roster since there was a McD AA game, that is the precedent. If you examine closer you will see the "blue bloods" get the majority of the McD AAs, so is it really them being selected as McD AAs that give them the "leg up" in winning a NC or is it the elite schools attract elite prospects and usually have the elite coaching in the sport.
I'm sick of people thinking a ranking on a website in February determines the next 3-5 year's outcomes on the field.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:10 pm to DaleDenton
BTW: I think what is overlooked in the above is the position of the players and players being taken in the draft.
If you notice, plenty of WRs, CBs, S, and QBs taken way "higher" than they should be according to their start rating out of HS, the way RBs are treated shows that there is a surplus of talented backs that it takes a rare RB to go high in the draft today as teams were getting RBs as good in the later rounds as they were in the earlier rounds.
You can look at Arkansas's roster for further evidence, a 5*, 4*, and 3* and the argument could be had over which one is the best, each have a slightly different skill set and ability.
So you have the skill positions or 7 on 7 positions where the is a large supply to meet demand and many productive players can be had in the later rounds or through the UFA route.
So what is at a premium? Linemen on both sides and LBs, with the star system, you can load up on the positions in supply and finish with a high ranking while missing out on the high rated linemen and LBs which the supply is smaller, demand higher, stars given for these positions is less, elite teams get the higher end prospects, non elites do not regularly.
If you notice, plenty of WRs, CBs, S, and QBs taken way "higher" than they should be according to their start rating out of HS, the way RBs are treated shows that there is a surplus of talented backs that it takes a rare RB to go high in the draft today as teams were getting RBs as good in the later rounds as they were in the earlier rounds.
You can look at Arkansas's roster for further evidence, a 5*, 4*, and 3* and the argument could be had over which one is the best, each have a slightly different skill set and ability.
So you have the skill positions or 7 on 7 positions where the is a large supply to meet demand and many productive players can be had in the later rounds or through the UFA route.
So what is at a premium? Linemen on both sides and LBs, with the star system, you can load up on the positions in supply and finish with a high ranking while missing out on the high rated linemen and LBs which the supply is smaller, demand higher, stars given for these positions is less, elite teams get the higher end prospects, non elites do not regularly.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:59 pm to DaleDenton
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This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 5:01 pm to Pigfeet
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This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 6:22 pm to RazorbackLaw501
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Just because you get torn up by Dale, and pretty much everyone else on this board, doesn't mean you have to try to bait others to support their points better than you're capable of doing; I was going to respond anyway, dude.
Not really, but most of the time I don't waste my energy on these kool aid drinkers. Dale is such a copy and paste type of guy and can't formulate his own thoughts, that I don't reply.
I say my piece and I leave the thread (most of the time) while Dale has this burning need to try and prove others, that believe differently than him, wrong. His life is a message board, where a message board is a place that takes up a few minutes of my day.
I don't live and die by down votes, personal attacks, or elementary name calling like some. I use this for my own entertainment, and could care less what anyone thinks.
With all of that bullshite being said, I thought you made a great point about Mateo's tweet, and found it interesting that there was another person out there that can see through some of the propaganda that Bert and Long consistently put out.
Anyways, doesn't matter, we were 0-8 and hoping that Bert can get us to 1-7 or better, the others can keep saying everything is ok on the hill, and I will keep posting my comments.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 7:51 pm to Pigfeet
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This post was edited on 4/10/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 9:22 pm to RazorbackLaw501
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even if instigation was your intention
I was using the popcorn gif because I was interested in seeing how "Copy and Paste" Dale would reply to your post, nothing more, nothing less.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:50 am to DaleDenton
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First round picks by the stars.
Interesting.
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