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Why haven't more cable providers gotten on board with the SEC network?

Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:14 am
I just don't get why companies like DirecTV and Comcast refuse to get things worked out especially in Big SEC markets and states.

Could they offer it as part of a sports package if they refuse to include it in their basic packages? Similar to the NFL red zone? Could they allow people to choose to play an extra 3-5 bucks a month for it who want it.

Can a company like DirecTV hold you to your contract if they REFUSE to provide you with what it's competitor has?
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:15 am to
Because the sec network is charging too much
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Can a company like DirecTV hold you to your contract if they REFUSE to provide you with what it's competitor has?


You bet they can and will. That wont stop me from threatening to leave Direct even with a year left on the contract and getting the Sunday Ticket for free again though.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Because the sec network is charging too much


Why not let viewers CHOOSE then a-la carte. I have a feeling many southerners will choose to pay a few bucks extra a month esp during football season.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Because the sec network is charging too much



If every provider jumped on board year one I would argue that the SECN was charging too little. As it is they are charging just the right amount I think.

The idea is to make them pay the maximum the market can bear. The only problem with that strategy is that it might take more than one buying cycle for the customer to realize that they need your product more than they think.

Once the first SECN game hits and these providers don't have it, their social media will be ruined for months. That will get them moving.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:19 am to
How many times are you gonna start this thread bunty?
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:19 am to
It's a pissing contest right now. Every cable provider, that is big in the south, will have to carry it. If they don't, they will lose mass business to the competitor's.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Why not let viewers CHOOSE then a-la carte.


Oh, you want to pick and choose which channels you get?

Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Why not let viewers CHOOSE then a-la carte. I have a feeling many southerners will choose to pay a few bucks extra a month esp during football season.



That is not the doing of the cable company, that is the doing of ESPN.

ESPN doesn't want $10 bucks from the percent of people that get the premium channels. They want $1+ from EVERYONE subscribed to cable in SEC states.

If they give in and allow it on premium channels, the miss out on a larger pie. I wouldn't be surprised if that is allowed in non-SEC markets though.

The whole thing that drives the conference network concept as defined by the Big 10 is to milk the shite out of your base.

If we could chose some people would chose no football at all (like a woman that never watches sports), then ESPN 1 and 2 would also be screwed and the huge pile of money the SEC gets from them each year OUTSIDE the SECN would go down the shitter.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:26 am to
The same problem occurred the first year of the B1G network. Deals were not worked out in time. I remember friends of mine who still lived in Columbus bitching b/c they couldn't watch OSU because a few of the large carriers hadn't "crossed the line" so to say

As stated, it is a tug of war. Usually it gets worked out right around a week or two before a season starts, or it will take an entire year. It sucks but it is all about the $$ and maximizing it
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:27 am to
This topic has been rehashed over and over again. On this and other boards here on this site.

Even the topic of a la carte programming has been discussed at length.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:


Why not let viewers CHOOSE then a-la carte




why do people think this would somehow give them cheaper TV?

there is ZERO chance you could get a channel like SECN for less than $50-$100 a month if that happened.

ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU would cost even more.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 9:30 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:29 am to
quote:

This topic has been rehashed over and over again. On this and other boards here on this site.

Even the topic of a la carte programming has been discussed at length.


We will see dozens more of such topics the closer we get to football season. I expect a significant part of the SEC footprint to be without the SECN this year.

Better than another schedule thread though.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:30 am to
Standard negotiating tactics - it's a waiting game.

It's like a mediation that has been going on for 12 hours with both sides barely moving from their opening positions. In the 13th hour, when the mediator says he is ending it (and both sides are staring at going to trial and paying their lawyers $$$) all of the sudden the sides magically work out a deal in about 10 minutes. Same thing will happen before the fall. Nobody really cares about the SEC Network until those games start airing.
Posted by OC
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:31 am to
Believe it or not, some cable companies have not yet heard from ESPN regarding the SEC Network.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

I expect a significant part of the SEC footprint to be without the SECN this year.



I disagree, they will eventually fold (I guessing before season starts). Subscribers need to call their bluff and go ahead and move providers.

quote:

Better than another schedule thread though.


You're damn right about that.
Posted by BossaGator
Member since Sep 2010
606 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:36 am to
Most will, IMO. Negotiations like these always come to a head at particular times - in this case, likely close to the rollout.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

I disagree, they will eventually fold (I guessing before season starts).


I think many smaller ones will, but I don't expect deals to be done with Direct TV, Time Warner, and Comcast (possibly Cox) prior to the first SECN game.

In fact I don't think it will be on Comcast and Time warner for two or more years.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:38 am to
I've already got my first piece of mail titled "Arkansas sports fan, Get the best in college sports" from Dish. Pretty nifty little thing, envelope was designed like a football and the back had the Dish logo on it.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:40 am to
I am switching from DirecTV to Uverse today after 5+ years with DTV. It's just a matter of time at this point with Dish and Uverse and more cable companies on board. DTV is just trying to negotiate but their leverage is shrinking as more and more people are switching as the season draws closer. At some point DTV will have to stop the bleeding but in the meantime its just a game of chicken.

It's also brilliant that the SECN is putting the first 2 A&M games on SECN considering that Texas is the most populated SEC state.

This isn't like the LHN or B1G Network because neither was able to pull Dish this early and UVerse wasn't nearly as big when they got them. The SECN has tremendous leverage right now and they are using it.
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