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2011 Bama vs 95 Nebraska
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:22 pm
Just a thread for the off season.
How does the great nebraska offense led by tommie Frazier and ahman green do (with an OL that has 1 300 pounder) against a great Bama defense with their linebackers (Upshaw, Harris, Hightower, Johnson)
How does the great nebraska offense led by tommie Frazier and ahman green do (with an OL that has 1 300 pounder) against a great Bama defense with their linebackers (Upshaw, Harris, Hightower, Johnson)
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:35 pm to The Silverback
Look at the damage Georgia Southern did to us that year. Tommy Frazier and Co. would stream roll us.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:56 pm to mwlewis
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Look at the damage Georgia Southern did to us that year. Tommy Frazier and Co. would stream roll us.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:57 pm to mwlewis
I think you have to give Bama the benefit of a "fluke game"
Kansas state held nebraska to 190 total rushing yards. I'm pretty sure 2011 Bama defense > 1995 K State defense
Kansas state held nebraska to 190 total rushing yards. I'm pretty sure 2011 Bama defense > 1995 K State defense
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:58 pm to mwlewis
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Look at the damage Georgia Southern did to us that year. Tommy Frazier and Co. would stream roll us.
Perhaps. We also have a history of playing down to our competition. Do you really think that our defense took the preparations for Georgia Southern seriously compared to national title game prep?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:04 pm to chattabama
While one can point to the Georgia southern game, remember that the Bama defense showed up big against the good teams. I think them shutting down LSU completely, and being quite dominant all year long points to that game being a fluke.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:06 pm to chattabama
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Perhaps. We also have a history of playing down to our competition. Do you really think that our defense took the preparations for Georgia Southern seriously compared to national title game prep?
This.
If Bama focuses in on preparation like they did against LSU before 1/9/12, or hell even focus like they were playing Arkansas, they shut out Georgia Southern, or at least really hold them down, 7 points or less.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:19 pm to The Silverback
11 bama wins in my opinion I think that defense would be better than that neb offense
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:21 pm to mwlewis
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Look at the damage Georgia Southern did to us that year. Tommy Frazier and Co. would stream roll us.
Two completely different schemes. Georgia Southern ran the triple option out of the Wing-T, much like Georgia Tech does under Paul Johnson, while '95 Nebraska ran their triple option out of the I-Formation.
Also...it must be said that Alabama was not up for that game at all. I could tell they weren't just by the way Saban sounded in his Sunday and Wednesday press conferences leading up to the game. He sounded very concerned.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:44 pm to The Silverback
Hard to say. Athletically we out match them, but we did GSU as well. However, with a month to prepare.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:40 am to The Silverback
I have a hard time thinking that anyone would beat the 2011 team given a month to prepare and motivated.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:23 am to bbeck
Well Nebraska would not be able to beat that Bama defense though the air. Besides Reggie Baul, I don't think they had anyone that could challenge a secondary like that 2011 unit.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:46 am to The Silverback
That '95 Nebraska team is probably the best I've seen...while I think our '11 team could keep it fairly close, think we'd probably lose by a touchdown...something like 24-17 or 28-21...
You're right, but Nebraska still scored 49 points that game...the lowest total they were held to all year was 35. They led the country in scoring that year and their defense, while not up to our '11 D's standards, wasn't too bad as they were 4th in the nation in points allowed...
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Kansas state held Nebraska to 190 total rushing yards. I'm pretty sure 2011 Bama defense > 1995 K State defense.
You're right, but Nebraska still scored 49 points that game...the lowest total they were held to all year was 35. They led the country in scoring that year and their defense, while not up to our '11 D's standards, wasn't too bad as they were 4th in the nation in points allowed...
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:54 am to OldPete
I just don't see how nebraska would move the ball on that defense. They were very dominant against the competition but never played a team even close to Bama (defense wise at least)
Frazier was a great QB and could run the option extremely well, but it takes QBs who either can throw the ball on a dime (like Trevor Knight) and or be a really good dual threat (Like Manziel). The last few years, no team besides Auburn has been able to beat Bama primarily running the ball. And I think with the size and power of Auburns OL and their scheme, that offense is harder to defend (Auburn also had dangerous receivers, Nebraska didnt have any real game changers at WR) than 95 Nebraska's I Bone attack.
Frazier was a great QB and could run the option extremely well, but it takes QBs who either can throw the ball on a dime (like Trevor Knight) and or be a really good dual threat (Like Manziel). The last few years, no team besides Auburn has been able to beat Bama primarily running the ball. And I think with the size and power of Auburns OL and their scheme, that offense is harder to defend (Auburn also had dangerous receivers, Nebraska didnt have any real game changers at WR) than 95 Nebraska's I Bone attack.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:58 am to The Silverback
And how would Nebraska handle our physically mauling offensive line paving the way for absolute bruiser RBs (Lacy and Richardson) ? That offense may have not been flashy like these recent gimmick oregon offenses, but they would beat opposing defenses into submission.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:27 am to The Silverback
It's two different eras. Poor Nebraska would get manhandled. They had 1 guy on the roster that topped 300 pounds. 1 guy
Now, that isn't to say that '95 Nebraska wasn't better for their time than '11 bama, because I think they were.
In an alternate universe however where both teams could time travel to a field somewhere out in the cosmos and square off, Nebraska probably gets beat by 50
Now, that isn't to say that '95 Nebraska wasn't better for their time than '11 bama, because I think they were.
In an alternate universe however where both teams could time travel to a field somewhere out in the cosmos and square off, Nebraska probably gets beat by 50
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:42 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
If we come to agreement that 2011 Bama beats 95 Nebraska, then I think a more interesting question would be 2012 Texas A&M (when they turned it on and were playing lights out) vs 2011 Bama. Our heavy weight run stuffing linebackers and guys like Barron and Lester against the slippery Johnny Manziel.
Would that mean trouble for Bama since there wasn't a tremendous pass rush? Also, would the Bama OL have some problems, making it hard for us to move the ball? (Nealy was giving Barrett Jones problems)
Would that mean trouble for Bama since there wasn't a tremendous pass rush? Also, would the Bama OL have some problems, making it hard for us to move the ball? (Nealy was giving Barrett Jones problems)
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:44 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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It's two different eras. Poor Nebraska would get manhandled. They had 1 guy on the roster that topped 300 pounds. 1 guy Now, that isn't to say that '95 Nebraska wasn't better for their time than '11 bama, because I think they were. In an alternate universe however where both teams could time travel to a field somewhere out in the cosmos and square off, Nebraska probably gets beat by 50
I definitely agree Bama has them outmatched with size. And I think Bama would win. But do you really think they would win by 50?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:51 pm to mwlewis
Go update yourself, we had 5 starters out for Ga.So. and they ran a wishbone, Nebraska ran an I Bone.
There is too much rise in talent levels for Nebraska to win, hell 2005 Bama would have creamed 1961 Bama. Players get bigger, stronger and faster.
Now comparing Nebraska to other teams in 95 they were probably better than Bama in that regard of being dominant, but you just can't, imho, compare teams 15 to 20 years apart.
There is too much rise in talent levels for Nebraska to win, hell 2005 Bama would have creamed 1961 Bama. Players get bigger, stronger and faster.
Now comparing Nebraska to other teams in 95 they were probably better than Bama in that regard of being dominant, but you just can't, imho, compare teams 15 to 20 years apart.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 3:22 pm to chattabama
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We also have a history of playing down to our competition.
That would be LSU.
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Do you really think that our defense took the preparations for Georgia Southern seriously compared to national title game prep?
Perhaps they were still unfocused due to the LSU loss. They were also missing a few players and facing an offense that's difficult to prepare for unless you're used to it.
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