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Chris Dortch of Blue Ribbon says Ben Howland has reached out to UT today

Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:45 pm
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Believes UT's top 3 is Howland, Cronin and Mack (after the Marshall and Smarts of the world)
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:46 pm to
It's no secret Howland wants back in the game. You sign him, and you have an unquestioned top 4 coach in the league. Something we haven't had since Pearl's departure.
Posted by ChargerDog91
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:13 pm to
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You sign him, and you have an unquestioned top 4 coach in the league. Something we haven't had since Pearl's departure.




Talk about pulling shite out your arse. Ben Howland is a good coach but top 4?

UCLA hadn't been relevant since '07 just so you know.
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:14 pm to
Anyone got the skinny on what happened that caused the collapse after his last Final Four?
Posted by ChargerDog91
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:17 pm to
He ran out of Steve Lavin's talent.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:19 pm to
IIRC, team discipline became a big problem. The players totally quit listening to him and openly disrespected him at practice, etc.

Big article in sports illustrated about it at one time if I recall
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Talk about pulling shite out your arse. Ben Howland is a good coach but top 4?

UCLA hadn't been relevant since '07 just so you know.


1 National Championship Appearance
3 final fours

3 PAC 10 Championships
2 PAC 10 Tournament Championships
2 Big East Championships
1 Big East Tournament Championships


1 Naismith National Coach of the Year
1 Big East Coach of the Year
1 Pac 10 Coach of the year
1 Big Sky Coach of the year

I don't think top 4 is a stretch. Only Cal and Donovan would be considered more accomplished.
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Ben Howland is a good coach but top 4?


who are the current top 4 in the league?
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:23 pm to
1. Cal
2. Donovan
3. ????????


I really have no clue after that, mike fricking Anderson?

I guess Vandy's coach might could argue for top 4, I don't think Haith can
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:23 pm to
Pearl is 3rd. Howland is better than Pearl imo, but I could live with ranking him 4th.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm to
Well I wasn't considering Pearl for whatever reason, guess I'm still working off of last year
Posted by ChargerDog91
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm to
Are we talking overall? x's and o's?

But I'll bite

Billy Donovan
John Calipari
Bruce Pearl
Frank Martin

You can argue Howland because of past accomplishments, but he hadn't done a damn thing at UCLA since 2007. That's 7 years ago.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:24 pm to
1. Cal and Donovan (I prefer Billy D, but Cal's methods are effective.)

3. Pearl

4. - 14. A jumbled mesh of second rate nobodies.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

He ran out of Steve Lavin's talent.



Yeah he really struggled identifying and signing talent.

Jordan Farmar, Arron Aflalo, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook (while not highly rated), Darren Collison, Shabazz Muhammad, etc. were bums.

Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:25 pm to
Martin? Hell no, has never won with his own players
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Ben Howland has reached out to UT today

Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Frank Martin


An Elite 8 at a respectable basketball school, and a sub .500 record at USC. A sub .500 record with today's watered down schedules is horrendously bad.


I agree with your top 3.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by The_Joker
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:27 pm to
Maybe I'm alone but I think Howland is severely overrated. His slow as frick offense would get abused by the more athletic defenses in the SEC.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

But I'll bite


Oh i'm just asking...i'd put him in the top 4 if hired.

we can disagree on who is in the top 4.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:28 pm to
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is a good coach but top 4?


the SEC isn't exactly a who's who of coaching right now... after BD and Cal, it's all open for interpretation.
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