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Players Likely Suspended, Suspended, or Dismissed (CU @ UGA)

Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:27 pm
Chad Kelly
J. Harvey-Clemons
J. Scott-Wesley
C. Crawford
G. Peters
Shaq Anthony
D. Beasley
U. LeMay
Tray Matthews
J. DeLoach
J. Talyor

8 of 11 went to high school in GA, FWIW.

Two coaches very open a/b their faith as well, which seems odd (unless you're a cynic).
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Two coaches very open a/b their faith as well, which seems odd (unless you're a cynic).



Our boys know SOS has no problem booting kids that deserve it (minus Garcia). Nice guys a la Richt and Dabo get taken advantage of.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:28 am to
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Nice guys a la Richt and Dabo get taken advantage of.


I really don't get this statement. Richt has been strong on discipline. He's kicked some of our best players off the team. You can't really help people that don't want to help themselves, and sometimes you just can't fix stupid.

Being "taken advantage of" would lead me to believe you think Richt lets our guys get a way with a lot. I think his record with discipline proves otherwise.
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:15 pm to
I know he is tough on violations. I mean I think his nice guy attitude makes the players think they can get away with more. Even though that hasn't been the example in the past.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Two coaches very open a/b their faith as well, which seems odd (unless you're a cynic).


What is odd about it? You're talking about 1 head coach overseeing 100+ 18-21 year olds. It is quite literally impossible to prevent them from wrongdoing. All you can do it discipline them after the fact, which Richt does (can't speak for dabo, I have no idea). So I'm not sure what you're getting at with that comment.

Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:32 pm to
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What is odd about it? You're talking about 1 head coach overseeing 100+ 18-21 year olds. It is quite literally impossible to prevent them from wrongdoing. All you can do it discipline them after the fact, which Richt does (can't speak for dabo, I have no idea). So I'm not sure what you're getting at with that comment.


And yet, many programs don't have nearly the same disciplinary problems as your own. Wonder how they do it? Might have something to do w/ leadership.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:55 pm to
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And yet, many programs don't have nearly the same disciplinary problems as your own. Wonder how they do it? Might have something to do w/ leadership.


Other the others may just be good at cover ups or keeping everything out of the public eye.
Posted by WheelRoute
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:38 pm to
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Other the others may just be good at cover ups or keeping everything out of the public eye.



Magical thinking. The University of Georgia coaching staff doesn't have a monopoly on virtue.

What I was getting at originally, though, is perhaps someone w/ a religious inclination feels they can "redeem" certain players, and take chances on them that a more cynical person like Spurrier might not take (especially after trying so hard w/ Garcia). The psychology of a devoutly religious person evaluating a talented but troubled youth could likely be summed up by any number of religious maxims (e.g., "judge not lest ye be judged").
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63768 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:59 pm to
DeLoach just won Most Improved Player spring award, he's probably not going to be suspended if he keeps up his hard work, impressing coaches.

Although, it's also not likely he was going to start anyway, as an OLB behind Jenkins and Floyd.

LeMay is probably gone, unfortunately. He only came here because of his older brother, who already transferred.

Also, you are forgetting Shaq Wiggins, who was arrested for suspended license. He may be suspended as well.

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:54 am to
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And yet, many programs don't have nearly the same disciplinary problems as your own. Wonder how they do it?


They keep their mouths shut, obviously. You are the biggest dolt on the planet if you think kids aren't going to bars, drinking underage, smoking weed, etc on every college campus in America. It happens EVERYwhere, yes even south carolina. The reason you hear about it is because we constantly cut off our nose to spite our face in the hopes of haing a "holier than thou" image, and trying to portray ourselves as Good Guy UGA that punishes wrongdoers. The problem is that a kid can do the same thing somewhere else and nobody hears a peep from it. That's the problem. Lol at it being "leadership".

Just as many players smoke weed at bama where Saban is coach as they do in Athens.
Posted by WheelRoute
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:55 pm to
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They keep their mouths shut, obviously. You are the biggest dolt on the planet if you think kids aren't going to bars, drinking underage, smoking weed, etc on every college campus in America. It happens EVERYwhere, yes even south carolina. The reason you hear about it is because we constantly cut off our nose to spite our face in the hopes of haing a "holier than thou" image, and trying to portray ourselves as Good Guy UGA that punishes wrongdoers. The problem is that a kid can do the same thing somewhere else and nobody hears a peep from it. That's the problem. Lol at it being "leadership".

Just as many players smoke weed at bama where Saban is coach as they do in Athens.


It is leadership. Lattimore, Shaw, Thompson... the faces of our teams over the past few years DO NOT actively participate in that lifestyle. We've been fortunate to have our high profile guys resist those temptations. Or at the very least, not flaunt them.

Now irrespective of that leadership quality, I absolutely agree that many college football players will enjoy the lifestyle--that's a given--just as many students enjoy the lifestyle. But you know what? When I was a student the guys getting arrested either put themselves in that position often (hanging out at bars several times a week) or they invited scrutiny from the police (getting in fights, pissing outdoors, smoking weed in crowded dorms, etc). The guys working hard who partook in wknd festivities didn't really seem to end up in compromising situations as often.

Your version of events relies on every program save your own covering up dirt, which is outright silly. The police in Columbia aren't soft on crime, I can assure you, and you can go back seven or eight years for the supporting evidence.
Posted by WheelRoute
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:58 pm to
Additionally, in response to the "covering up" conspiracy theorists, the number of arrests on our team has flatlined in the past few years. It didn't always used to be like this under Spurrier. So either at the age of 65 or so and 30 yrs into his career he decided to stop reporting crimes or there's been a cultural shift in the locker room w/r/t criminal activity. I think I know which one I'd bet on.
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:13 pm to
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They keep their mouths shut, obviously. You are the biggest dolt on the planet if you think kids aren't going to bars, drinking underage, smoking weed, etc on every college campus in America. It happens EVERYwhere, yes even south carolina. The reason you hear about it is because we constantly cut off our nose to spite our face in the hopes of haing a "holier than thou" image, and trying to portray ourselves as Good Guy UGA that punishes wrongdoers. The problem is that a kid can do the same thing somewhere else and nobody hears a peep from it. That's the problem. Lol at it being "leadership".

Just as many players smoke weed at bama where Saban is coach as they do in Athens.



The arrogance + cognitive dissonance it takes to believe this shite is fascinating. A complete inversion of Occam's Razor: it's not that we have a discipline problem, it's that we're actually far too disciplined and everyone else doesn't discipline enough!
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