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Man freed after being wrongfully imprisoned for 25 years

Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:40 am
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:40 am
Man was convicted of murdering someone in New York even though he was on vacation with his family in Florida. Pretty messed up. LINK


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A New York judge Tuesday vacated the conviction of a man who spent nearly a quarter of a century behind bars for a Brooklyn slaying that occurred while he was vacationing in Florida.


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Fleming has always maintained he was on a family trip to Disney World in Florida when Rush was shot to death early on the morning of August 15, 1989, in a dispute over stolen money ... it was determined that the only evidence tying him to the crime was an alleged witness who later recanted her statement.


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Fleming told his attorneys he had paid a bill for phone calls made from his Florida hotel room the night before Rush was killed, and he believed the receipt was in his pocket when police arrested him. But authorities told the defense he had no such receipt, according to Koss.

In the course of the investigation, the Conviction Review Unit found the receipt in police records, time stamped and dated -- solidifying Fleming's claim that he was in Florida at the time of the killing, according to the district attorney's office.



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"This is proof of alibi that was basically purposely withheld," Koss said.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 7:41 am
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:53 am to
Wow.








































His lawyer must have sucked arse.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:57 am to
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14681 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:06 am to
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Wow.








































His lawyer must have sucked arse.

Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10203 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:06 am to
My favorite part is that the cops hid the one piece of tangible evidence that proved he was 1,000 miles away at the time.

"Who gives a shite if we pin the right guy. We pinned somebody, and that's all that matters."
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:08 am to
What kind of restitution, if any, does that get somebody? Whatever it is, I'm sure it's not nearly enough to make up for 25 years.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:13 am to
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My favorite part is that the cops hid the one piece of tangible evidence that proved he was 1,000 miles away at the time.


If this is true, I'm of the opinion that the cops involved should do some serious time. I'm not talking about a situation where a decent cop screws up an investigation, or if circumstantial evidence just points to the wrong guy... But if they knowingly withheld evidence in order to pin a crime on an innocent man, they should do 25 years too.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 8:16 am
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:30 am to
No they should have to serve a worse punishment.

Cops do this shite all the time because they know even if they get caught the consequences will be far less severe.

And because 9/10 cops are shitty human beings
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:33 am to
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No they should have to serve a worse punishment.

Cops do this shite all the time because they know even if they get caught the consequences will be far less severe.

And because 9/10 cops are shitty human beings


Agreed. Cops suck.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:01 am to
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And because 9/10 cops are shitty human beings


Wow...that's an unfair generalization. I am mostly an FTP'er but I'm not ignorant enough to think that 9/10 are "shitty human beings."
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:03 am to
But apparently you are ignorant enough to not know an exaggeration when you see one lol ;)
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 9:06 am
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:18 am to
So fricked up. I see a wrongful prosecution suit in New York's future.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10203 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:21 am to
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What kind of restitution, if any, does that get somebody?


According to this, ~40% don't get squat.

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Even in the states that do offer compensation to the innocent, standards vary wildly. Some pay $50,000 per year. Two pay more (Texas and Vermont), but others less. Wisconsin pays $5,000 per year while Missouri pays $50 per day. New Hampshire sets an award cap of $20,000 while other states set a maximum of $500,000, $1 million or no limit.

Does your state compensate the wrongly convicted?
According to the Innocence Project, exonerated prisoners who are eligible for compensation wait an average three years to receive their money. Most states tax the money, according to the Innocence Project Report.


List of states' restitution statutes: LINK

ETA: Texas may not frick around with criminals, but they are the best at apologizing when they get it wrong.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:23 am to
Wow. That's terrible.

I'm not a fan of most lawsuits, but in cases like this the wrongly incarcerated person should sue the shite out of the state and win. They basically took this mans life away. He deserves to be very very comfortable for the rest of it.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:28 am to
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Wow. That's terrible.

I'm not a fan of most lawsuits, but in cases like this the wrongly incarcerated person should sue the shite out of the state and win. They basically took this mans life away. He deserves to be very very comfortable for the rest of it.


Trust me, he'll be well taken care of for the rest of his life. The state will pay him back a considerable sum of money.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10203 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:34 am to
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Trust me, he'll be well taken care of for the rest of his life. The state will pay him back a considerable sum of money.


Not necessarily.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:36 am to
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Wow...that's an unfair generalization. I am mostly an FTP'er but I'm not ignorant enough to think that 9/10 are "shitty human beings."


9.5/10?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:46 am to
Saw a stat yesterday that the city of Chicago has paid out $500M in settlements for police wrongdoing, etc.



Since 2004.

2004
$50M per year

Chicago pays an average of $35k PER COP in settlements and legal bills PER YEAR.

In 2011, NYC paid $185M to settle claims against their police department.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28807 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:52 am to
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What kind of restitution, if any, does that get somebody? Whatever it is, I'm sure it's not nearly enough to make up for 25 years.



i couldn't live with myself if i did this by accident, nonetheless on purpose to a guy.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14410 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:53 am to
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If this is true, I'm of the opinion that the cops involved should do some serious time. I'm not talking about a situation where a decent cop screws up an investigation, or if circumstantial evidence just points to the wrong guy... But if they knowingly withheld evidence in order to pin a crime on an innocent man, they should do 25 years too.



THIS. Won't happen though
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