Phelps gone as expected....

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Justin Tatum, but in package deal with his son.

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Against NCAA rules.

Kim English

When does Leitao's bus leave?

How is it against NCAA rules if Doug McDermott played for his dad at creighton?

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How is it against NCAA rules if Doug McDermott played for his dad at creighton?

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I think you can. Didn't get the rule itself, but quickly found this:

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The NCAA passed a rule that college basketball programs can no longer hire AAU coaches to "noncoaching" roles. The rule prohibits schools from hiring anybody associated with a basketball recruit to a noncoaching role for a two year period before or after the athlete enrolls.

This is the latest attempt by the NCAA to clean up college basketball recruiting. In years' past, schools would hire AAU coaches as either the video coordinator or the head of basketball operations only to lure in that AAU coach's top high school recruit.

The proposal passed by the council must be affirmed by the Division I board of directors.

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Looks like it is ok if it is an actual coaching position. Wasn't the long running joke with kU that they hired a recruit's coach or relative as director of basketball operations as opposed to an actual coach? Not sure what Chalmers' situation involved.

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Mario's dad, Ronnie Chalmers was hired as the director of basketball operations in 2005. He had only been a high school head coach in Alaska for 5 years. Not surprisingly, he resigned in 2008 to pursue other interests.

Not sure how the rule works with the McDermott's and all of the other father/son duos but I'm sure it has something to do with having previous college coaching experience, or maybe it just applies to AAU teams???

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I think it's the fact that Director of Basketball Operations is not considered an actual coaching position. So can no longer pull what they did with Chalmers and others. I think if it's an actual coach, head or assistant, then it's ok. As in McDermott or Tatum in this situation.

Here's the actual rule.

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13.8.3.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete -- Men's Basketball.

Previous Cite: 13.8.3.1 Employment in Athletically Related Institutional Activities -- Basketball. Next Cite: 13.8.3.2.1 Application.

In men's basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete's anticipated enrollment and a two-year period after the prospective student-athlete's actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted: 1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/13/11)

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My reading of it says the prohibition is against hiring someone associated with a recruit (coach/relative/etc.) within the athletics department (guess the rest of the University is ok) in a noncoaching position (head coach/assistant coach is ok)within 2 years before or after the recruit's enrollment. Unless there's another rule, it looks like hiring Justin and recruiting Jayson would be ok as long as Justin is hired as an assistant coach and not something like Director of Basketball Operations. Having said that, doubt Mizzou goes that route.