Help me chose the Falcons 2nd round pick

Immediate needs...

Safety
Pass Rush

Because you took Mack and he'll be playing alot more in space than rushing the QB on every play.

If you aren't satisfied with any of the DL or safety's available at 37, it would also be ok to pick up a quality wide receiver, although not an immediate need, White might not have much time left with the falcons if he continues to have health issues in his 30's, and I don't know if they'll be willing to pay TWO wide receivers the kind of money that Julio is going to demand.


ETA, I see Watkins and Evans are gone, Jordon Matthews, Landry, Beckham, maybe some west coast badass, all will probably make pretty good receivers if you want to go that route.

Wtf, the guy who has JAX needs to give that to me because JFF will NOT BE OUR DAMN QB

All three are excellent ideas. I'm not sure their will be a decent S left since the top two are already off the board. I have an idea or two for Dline since it's a decent draft for them. WR is interesting as well as a TE if there is a legit one left on the board.

As an aside, with Jake and Greg off the board, I don't know that you even get giddy over any of the OL guys still available. I don't think a 3rd round OT will be any worse that what is available in the 2nd round this year.

It is rare, however, to still have top-shelf receiver talent in round 2, they are deep this year, and nothing wrong with taking advantage of it.

This will only be Konz's second year as a starter, if last year was just a learning curve, he might turn out to be a pretty damn good center. Even as an All-American, it's hard for a guy to step right onto an NFL field and be a badass at that position.

If ATL's OL can stay healthy, Baker at LT and keep Schraeder off the field at right tackle, I don't think our OL will be that bad, with just a little improvement from Konz at center.

I know yall are only doing 4 rounds, but in 5-7 and with some compensatory picks, you can pick up some quality depth there as well, some of the guys from the Gamecocks, maybe pick up Chris Burnette from UGA, he was a very good RG. Even someone like Garrison Smith to help beef up the defensive line would be smart.

By the time the draft is over IRL, there's no reason we can't have a much deeper and higher quality OL and DL without having to make any big splashy moves.

That's just my opinion.

I expect Chuck Oliver to repeat this as his own opinion when he does his Draft Doctor next week.

Some potentially good Safeties that haven't been picked yet...


Both of FSU's safeties:
Lamarcus Joyner (higher rated)
Terrence Brooks

Nickoe Whitley from Miss St, 4 years in the program, 2 year starter, on several All SEC lists over the years.

Sunseri from Bama, he was good enough to fight his way to the top of the depth chart at Bama, so he obviously doesn't suck. He is also a special teams threat.


Those are some names to keep your eye on, if you take a safety in the top 4 rounds.

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Frick no. Jordan Mathews on the other hand is very intriguing. Joyner might be a solid pick int he second round as well if either are on the board.

The reason I didn't go OT in the first round is because I've been hearing the OL and DL take longer to adjust to the NFL. I went with Mack who could provide and immediate boost to the D.

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I don't think you are being fair.

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I think you're being overly fair, though I don't disagree on all of this. I feel like you're handing a few "participation trophies" here, however.

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Sam Baker was an all-american first round pick, he has been a pretty good left tackle. He's had some bad games, and he has been hurt alot. However, I dont think anyone in the draft, Matthews or Robinson, are going to be able to step on the field on day one and out-perform Baker against an NFL pass rush. Anyone you draft at LT is going to be a backup in 2014. It's usually frowned upon to spend a first round pick on a backup.

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Very much disagree. Baker was a huge reach where we picked him and has never performed like a 1st round OT. He wasn't worth the pick and damn sure wasn't worth trading up for. I thought it was a joke when they announced that pick and still do today, though not a funny one.

I do agree that Matthews of Robinson would outperform him day one, but I don't think that it would take them much beyond the first season to surpass him. Sam was taken in '08 and it took him until '12 to play anywhere close to the draft position we SHOULD have taken him at (if we had to take him at all), which was #1 in the 2nd round and he only did it for that year. In hindsight, he is more like high upside 3rd or 4th rounder.

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Konz was another all american center, rated the #1 center in the 2012 draft after the combine, played well at guard, good enough to replace what's his face at center. Konz can get better. He wasn't horrible last year, he made some mistakes he needs to fix.

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I like Konz and still have a lot of hope for him. I prefer him at OG, tbh, but he is a serviceable Center.

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No one seems to have any complaints about Falcon's guards.

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Nor do I particularly. We could do a good bit better there, but I'm much more depressed/worried about Tackle. We mirror the Dawgs so much sometimes it is creepy.

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Shraeder is a problem, the undrafted free agent at right tackle.

In January, when Tony G was asked which young falcons player is the best, and one to watch going into the future, Tony G said Shraeder. I'll trust Tony G who worked side by side with him at TE.

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I don't mind him in a project 3rd string/career backup kind of role. If we need to lean on him in the slightest though, that just illustrates the issues I'm talking about.

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With Tice, the new OL coach, there is no reason to think he wont get more out of the existing roster, hell, how could he get less?

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I have to imagine we'll be better in the future, but how much did Tice change the blocking scheme? Friend is a much better OL coach than Searels, but we still took a step back in year one because of moving from a zone-blocking scheme to a drive-blocking scheme under CWF.

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I still think we need some OLmen in the draft, if only for depth purposes.

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I think we need at least one guy that can contribute right away. As far as Guards, the only guy I'd like to take is Gabe Jackson (MSU). He is a monster, but I think he'll be gone too early and I'd like to get him in the 3rd if we took him.

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Remember, it's not realistic to think we can go from worst OL to best OL in one draft.

Also remember, we are getting ten picks. We can get some depth at OL, and still be able to get a good receiver, a good pass rusher on the other end of Osi, a good running back, a good safety, with higher picks on those more skilled positions that generally pan out alot faster on the field than offensive linemen.

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I'm not expected best OL, but if we can go from 35th best OL where we are now to top 20, I'll be thrilled.

We have plenty of picks, I want one early, immediate contributor on OL. Would like to see 3 taken overall, but some good UFA gets would make up for taking less.