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we have wally groff back
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:24 pm
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:26 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Not a fan of his at all.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:36 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The questions were good at least.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:04 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
That was a pretty awful set of responses. 
ETA: Is he really trying to explain away the downward trend of the basketball program as a consequence of A&M's superior academic standards vis-à-vis the rest of the SEC? (or at least one of his reasons...)
ETA: Is he really trying to explain away the downward trend of the basketball program as a consequence of A&M's superior academic standards vis-à-vis the rest of the SEC? (or at least one of his reasons...)
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:24 pm to FarmersFight
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ETA: Is he really trying to explain away the downward trend of the basketball program as a consequence of A&M's superior academic standards vis-à-vis the rest of the SEC? (or at least one of his reasons...)
Seriously give me a break. We aren't Stanford or Northwestern. We have more or less the same rules every other school in the SEC has
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:00 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
In defense of Groff, he was a product of the Athletic Department when A&M did not have a lot of money. Hence his conservative ways with money...like folks who grew up in the Depression.
Those days are behind us. Yet Hyman acts as though we have no money. We have money.
Those days are behind us. Yet Hyman acts as though we have no money. We have money.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:07 pm to Slotback
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In defense of Groff, he was a product of the Athletic Department when A&M did not have a lot of money.
As someone that had several pretty detailed discussions with Groff while he was Asst AD and then AD about his vision for A&M, you give him way way too much credit.
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Those days are behind us. Yet Hyman acts as though we have no money. We have money.
While a common sentiment, it's not really true. We're investing so much money right now that OpEx is a bit tight.
In a year or two, the money really should be flowing though and I'd rather spend based on that assumption. But to say we are flush right now would be false.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:11 pm to FarmersFight
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ETA: Is he really trying to explain away the downward trend of the basketball program as a consequence of A&M's superior academic standards vis-à-vis the rest of the SEC? (or at least one of his reasons...)
Yeah. BZ should've reminded him that Florida's ranked 20 spots higher than us in US News and all their admissions metrics are equal or slightly better.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:07 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Seriously give me a break. We aren't Stanford or Northwestern. We have more or less the same rules every other school in the SEC has
Precisely. As Iosh mentioned, Florida has consistently been good in all sports and particularly good in football and basketball within the last decade. We and they are more or less peer institutions. This is also ridiculous when comparing A&M to institutions it aspires to be mentioned with: UCLA, Cal, Michigan, UVA, UNC etc.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:10 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Are we there? That’s to be determined.
I really don't like this fricking guy.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:50 am to CGSC Lobotomy
If you think Hyman is like Groff you are too young to know much about Groff.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:20 am to Dr RC
I remember the infamous quote: "Our record doesn't matter as long as the stadium is selling out". Once Gates took over, Groff was gone.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:24 am to FarmersFight
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ETA: Is he really trying to explain away the downward trend of the basketball program as a consequence of A&M's superior academic standards vis-à-vis the rest of the SEC? (or at least one of his reasons...)
I don't think he was really saying A&M's academic standards are so high that they directly caused the team fell off upon entrance to the SEC.
I think he was dancing around the fact that Turge left our APR standing in such poor shape that we can't currently afford to take on many (if any) high grade risk players for fear of earning a post-season ban.
From near the start of the article
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We’re (also) in a hole academically and we’re trying to claw out of it. We’ve hired an academic person and an attendance policy is in place.
“I’m a fan just like everybody else. I want to win every time we go out on the basketball court. … (But) everything is not about winning. It’s about your student-athlete experience, it’s about your graduation rate and it’s about your APR. It’s about running your program with integrity. There are a lot of factors that go into it.”
Think of APR like a balancing act. Normally you are going to have a few kids with really high grades who will for sure finish school and a few with mediocre at best who might not graduate in the required amount of time. You need to have enough kids who can graduate on time to balance out the ones who don't.
When you are in danger of an APR based postseason ban you can't take on as many guys that might normally get in who would be on the line potential grade risks that can't graduate on time.
So your pool of potential recruits gets reduced by X amount of players.
Now, here is where A&M's academic standards indirectly hurt rebuilding the team. Due to the higher academic standards than one might find at a school like Ole Miss, A&M's recruiting pool is again ever so slightly reduced.
Normally, it is not an issue that we will pass over a few guys b/c the staff think they can't hack it at A&M academically. Out of 10 recruits if only 1 or 2 must be ignored you can usually make it up.
However, when you combine that with the APR disaster that Turge left for a successor to clean up it hurts a bit more. Now instead of 8/10 being safe enough to recruit, its 5/10. That is much tougher to overcome any way you slice it.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:36 am to Dr RC
You can sit here and write as many novels as you want and it won't change the fact that Kennedy is a failure of a coach.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:49 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Don't be a cry baby brah.
You can bitch about BK all you want but the fact remains he (and any couch who followed Turge) was put into an extremely difficult position to succeed.
You may want to blow off the APR stuff as an excuse but the fact remains that A&M very well could have been suspended from post-season play. One of the things that BK was charged with was getting the team back in good APR standing which he has done a very good job of so far.
Avoiding that type of punishment has been a large detriment to rebuilding the team. You don't have to like it but its true.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:53 am to Dr RC
There is no question that Turge fricked us over but it just sounds like another excuse.
You cannot use grades as an excuse for why our players show no energy every other game and don't even look like they know the fundamentals half the time.
You cannot use grades as an excuse for why our players show no energy every other game and don't even look like they know the fundamentals half the time.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:00 pm to Dr RC
It actually would have been preferred to get a postseason ban this year. Would have prevented the CBI debacle.
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:06 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I agree with you WBS. Totally. I'm out on Kennedy. But it sounds like that may be a factor in why not getting a new coach now. The next guy is still a bit hamstrung and it makes it harder to hire. Coaches don't like walking into situations ripe for failure.
But right now we'd probably have to overpay, give a huge buyout, and an extraordinary long contract to get a coach to come into our mess. For reference, see Arky football. Waiting a year may allow us to finish cleaning it up as well as make Reed renovations and it becomes easier to attract a top coach. I don't like it, but I'm trying to rationalize.
But right now we'd probably have to overpay, give a huge buyout, and an extraordinary long contract to get a coach to come into our mess. For reference, see Arky football. Waiting a year may allow us to finish cleaning it up as well as make Reed renovations and it becomes easier to attract a top coach. I don't like it, but I'm trying to rationalize.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:09 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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It actually would have been preferred to get a postseason ban this year. Would have prevented the CBI debacle.
That would be a pox on A&M and our academics. Really would be bad for our image as an university. No one will remember the CBI win or lose. But every single time we're on tv they would mention our academic standing
Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:18 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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There is no question that Turge fricked us over but it just sounds like another excuse.
You cannot use grades as an excuse for why our players show no energy every other game and don't even look like they know the fundamentals half the time.
Is it an excuse? Yes. It's a legitimate excuse though. Kennedy is having to rebuild the team with one hand behind his back. That is a very tough thing to do when you are at a school that is not willing to pull a UNC grade scam to keep better players on the court.
There are some things we can look at that do show improvement and give a reason to have some hope.
The team was very good at home this year. They actually won more home games than in all but a single year all time. They beat Tennessee twice. 3 of the losses were in overtime. Caruso has continued to develop. They are bringing in the kid from SMU next year.
Now obviously there was some bad. The North Texas/USCe losses and the road woes were a massive blight. The FT shooting was so bad it likely cost us enough wins to make the NIT.
All three of those can be corrected though. They aren't impossible fixes. Simply improving the team wide FT shooting just 10% could have swung upwards of 8 games in our favor.
I'm not saying things will get better next year but there is certainly a lot of potential for it to happen. It may be that Kennedy is more of a Mike Sherman type who cleans up the mess and then needs to move on for the next guy to take the step. However, I can see where things are getting better and can get better.
Ultimately, if the wins don't come that's fine b/c at least the mess has been fixed with APR and we showed the next potential coach that he will get a legitimate chance at getting his own players in before he gets shown the door.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:20 pm
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