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Grade Eric Hyman's job performance since taking over at A&M.

Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:43 pm
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:43 pm
And why he deserves it. I honestly don't know how much of an impact the ad has outside of hiring, so I'm curious to see how others view his leadership and decisions.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:58 pm to
C -


Dude just rubs me wrong. I don't like his decisions with the bball program either
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:05 pm to
I don't think anyone here is qualified to judge. Honestly, the AD job is one where if done properly, you take all the blame and none of the credit.

Right now, our overall athletic program is pretty damn strong. And everything that goes wrong in our AD is blamed on Hyman. That makes me think he's probably doing okay.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:22 pm to
There's legitimate concern about the direction of the Men's Basketball and Baseball programs, though it's hard to know how much Hyman's hands are tied due to the huge amount of $$ we're spending on Kyle and other renovations/construction.

Speaking of which, we had a banner year w/ donations, and ADs usually get some credit for fundraising results. But w/ the excitement over the SEC and Johnny, it's hard to say how much credit Hyman deserves on that, too.

I will give him credit, though, for scheduling Arizona State and the UCLA series. That's at least an A-. But overall, I'd say he gets an Incomplete. We'll know better in two years. We'll see how Kyle turned out, and Kennedy will either have turned around the basketball team, or will have been replaced.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:27 am to
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I don't think anyone here is qualified to judge.


There aren't many on the rant qualified to judge the majority of the topics, myself included, but I won't let that stop me.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 12:28 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:37 am to
I will be 100% honest. I don't care about basketball or baseball. I care about the money I'm going to spend on tailgating, and I haven't seen anything on the renovation of Spence.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 1:41 am to
Yeah what's up with that? I thought they were going to pump some money into that as well. Maybe I just read that people were wishing they'd pump money into it.
Posted by austin109
Katy, TX
Member since Jun 2013
50 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 2:43 am to
Never hear about him other than people wanting Kennedy fired. Thats about how it should be.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:29 am to
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Yeah what's up with that? I thought they were going to pump some money into that as well. Maybe I just read that people were wishing they'd pump money into it.


I think it is wishful thinking, but I don't get why we don't do something. "The Grove" is known across the country. The tailgating experience is almost as important as the game. I just wish you saw some nicer venues to tailgate at. We have a park right next to the stadium, we currently have construction all around there. I don't get why we can't install electric hookups, tons of permanent restrooms, grade towards the creek, plant some more trees, and re-sod the area. I know that's a lot of money, but it's important.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7954 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:09 am to
I can't give grades on unsubstantiated rumors.

If he has conflict with Sumlin, it's a problem. But he is Sumlins boss. On the other hand I trust Sumlin's evaluation of what's best for Aggieland over Hymen's.

The next thing is the Kennedy situation. An aggressive AD would hire the La Tech coach. It now looks like Kennedy is going to get at least another year. If Kennedy is a bust next year my grade of Hymen goes way down and he would have about one more mistake before I would be in favor or evaluating his progress at the position.

But for now he seems to keep a pretty tight lid on the AD which I like. He also is very professional.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:13 am to
D

He pissed off Sumlin, gave Childress an unwarranted extension, has refused to fire Kennedy, his cronies are pissing off people in the AD that the players like, and he unnecessarily aired dirt laundry about meeting with the Manziels.

He has had nothing to with fundraising - that's a windfall that fell into his lap - so he gets no offsetting credit for that. Kyle is Chancellor Sharp's vanity project, so he gets no credit for that. He didn't hire Sumlin, so gets no credit for that.

So the things HE controls, he's fumbled.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:46 am to
F--

We're building what's going to be the country's best football stadium and the enthusiasm for the program is at an all time high, but we haven't fired Kennedy yet so
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:22 am to
He also got Sumlin to accept a raise and not go to USC or elsewhere. He extended Blair. He held off a run on Henry from the sips in spite of not having been able to get an Outdoor Track Facility built.

I agree the fundraising isn't his primary responsibility but he deserves some credit, same story with the Kyle and other football renovations. The AD is still a factor in all of that.

While I agree that all signs are pointing to it being time for Kennedy to be let go I don't know that that decision has truly been made yet. I don't think the Kennedy interview means anything, I mean Mack Brown was acting like he wasn't even in hot water right up until the very end. We haven't heard anything from Hyman directly on that issue.

I don't think it was a terrible decision not to fire Childress after last season and until this year is over its hard to judge baseball.

I also expect the tailgating to continue to improve because he did such a good job of that at USC.

I also haven't seen him say anything to the football program other than "whatever you need" to Sumlin outside of the suspension issue.

He did get the UCLA and AZ State games scheduled and he appears to be able to get what we need out of the SEC office but that's hard to tell.

Hyman is aloof and not very personable but he is also clearly a professional AD that treats this as a business. As long as we have guys like Jason Cook I don't know that we have much of a need for an outspoken AD and honestly there is benefit to him being quiet and hard to read.

I'd give him a B+, but I am also looking at him compared to our last 3 AD's Byrne, Groff, and JDC and you could argue he has been better than any of them.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:26 am to
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But he is Sumlins boss.

Sumlin actually reports thru the Regents. He's outside the normal AD hierarchy
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:32 am to
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As long as we have guys like Jason Cook I don't know that we have much of a need for an outspoken AD and honestly there is benefit to him being quiet and hard to read.

Cook is a good example of things Hyman has done. Rather than be outspoken himself, he brought Cook into the AD to be the voice. We all love Jason Cook and Hyman gets all the hate. And yet Cook is simply the voice of Hyman.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:27 am to
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And yet Cook is simply the voice of Hyman.


Really? I mean I know that is part of his job but to me Cook has always had a part in crafting the message since even before Hyman. And Cook has been consistent with that message the whole time. It is what I love about the guy. We needed a consistent message.


As far as Hyman- I am VERY happy we "overpaid" for Sumlin. That was a risky move that is paying off. I think a program like ours needs to take calculated risks.

But I am unhappy about Sumlin micromanagment and paying for the CBI.

So the answer is too early to tell.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:55 am to
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Cook has always had a part in crafting the message since even before Hyman.

of course. But now he's crafting Hyman's message. He decides how it is presented, but he doesn't make the underlying decisions. Hyman operates entirely in the background.

We're taking advantage of the wind at our backs. But instead of coaching changes, we're investing in capital (Lohman Lobby, Slocum Nutrition Center, new lockerrooms, Olsen scoreboard, WCWR, SECN infrastructure, Reed upgrades). And I'm mostly happy because there are no corners being cut. Everything we are doing right now in facilities is simply top of the line.

That's a choice of short term pain for long term gain. And just like with Dollar Bill, people weren't happy about it. But the role of a good AD is not to win most popular.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79879 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:17 am to
In order to accurately grade the AD, you have to give him a report card with applicable weighted grades:

Football (4) - A [16]
Men's Basketball (3) - D [3]
Women's Basketball (2) - B [8]
Baseball (2) - C [4]
Fundraising (2) - A [8]
Marketing (2) - C [4]
Graduation/APR (2) - B [6]
Nonrevenue Men's Sports (1) - A [4]
Nonrevenue Women's Sports (1) - A [4]

Total "credit hours" = 19
Total "Grade Points" = 57
"Grade Point Ratio" = 3.0

B overall
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:37 am to
Solid.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:56 am to
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Hyman


Could you imagine being stuck with that last name for life?
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