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Merril Hoge Has Spoken: JFF Will Be a Bust

Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:24 pm
Some non-Bruce Pearl news on your lunch break
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@NFL_CFB: Johnny Manziel has "bust written all over him," says Merril Hoge. LINK

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"He has absolutely no instinct or feel for pocket awareness. He has an instinct to run. That's a bad instinct if you're going to have that in the National Football League. You have to play in the pocket with traffic around you and throw it. When traffic comes around him, he runs, and that's dangerous in the National Football League," Hoge said. "His skill set does not transition to the National Football League, and it is a big, big risk. In fact, I see bust written all over him, especially if he's drafted in the first round."
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:26 pm to
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That's a bad instinct if you're going to have that in the National Football League. You have to play in the pocket with traffic around you and throw it. When traffic comes around him, he runs, and that's dangerous in the National Football League


Everything here is 100% accurate.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:26 pm to
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"He has absolutely no instinct or feel for pocket awareness.

This may be the stupidest statement of 2014. He thrives on instinct and he knows when pressure is coming a second before it's there.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:28 pm to
Yes it is, and it's true for every NFL QB, just not sure why he has parked JFF in that spot.
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:29 pm to
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just not sure why he has parked JFF in that spot


bec JFF doesn't play or has the size like most NFL Qbs.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:29 pm to
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This may be the stupidest statement of 2014. He thrives on instinct and he knows when pressure is coming a second before it's there.

I believe what Hoge is trying to articulate there is that he doesn't step up in the pocket when pressured but rather bails and then works his magic. I imagine that Hoge is under the belief that doing it that way won't work in the NFL so he needs to learn to play within the pocket.

This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 12:31 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:30 pm to
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I believe what Hoge is trying to articulate there is that he doesn't step up in the pocket when pressured but rather bails and then relies works his magic. I imagine that Hoge is under the belief that doing it that way won't work in the NFL so he needs to learn to play within the pocket.


this
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:30 pm to
Ok
Posted by JStanDawgFan
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:31 pm to
Factor-Back
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:33 pm to
Fair enough and I can go with that. It just seems a tad early to pronounce that this won't be a part of JFF's skill set. He hasn't even been drafted yet much less have opportunity against NFL calibre. Well, we'll see.
Posted by mockabee
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:33 pm to
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This may be the stupidest statement of 2014.

This may be the stupidest statement of 2014.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:34 pm to
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He hasn't even been drafted yet much less have opportunity against NFL calibre. Well, we'll see.


Well if that were to occur, the pre draft would be very boring.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:34 pm to
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This may be the stupidest statement of 2014.

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This may be the stupidest statement of 2014.

This may be the stupidest statement of 2014.

Are we doing it right?
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Hoge was critical of Manziel in the areas that quarterback coaches hold dearest: decision-making, accuracy and pocket awareness.


WTF? Wasnt JFF the most accurate passer in the SEC last year?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:36 pm to
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Wasnt JFF the most accurate passer in the SEC last year?


and 3rd in the nation.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:37 pm to
Hoge gonna Hoge
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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WTF? Wasnt JFF the most accurate passer in the SEC last year?

He had 4th highest completion percentage in nation at 69.9 He had 3rd highest QB rating in nation at 172.9

So basically: absolutely no instinct, feel for pocket awareness and poor accuracy is the exact opposite of what is true.
Posted by See5
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
Hoge is a dumbass.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
Well, I'm not seeing the basis for what he's saying.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
The issue he will have in the NFL is he won't be able to just heave the ball and pray his receiver is the one that comes don with it like he would sometimes do at A&M. NFL DB's are too good.
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