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man arrested for talking too long at township board meeting
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:54 pm to LSU1NSEC
ridiculous
shite like this seems to be happening more and more in this country.
shite like this seems to be happening more and more in this country.
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:17 pm to LSU1NSEC
Damn Tea Party, with their Goddamn Gestapo police force and their Goddamn oppressive religious beliefs. GODDAMNIT, this Tea Party movement is trampling our freedom of speech. Won't someone please think of the fricking children?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
while i think you were being sarcastic, i'm not sure what the political affiliations are, but that would be interesting to know. the article doesnt give much detail.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:56 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Sounds like a small town with a Napoleon complex and a slightly unstable dude.
Is it in the fricking police manual to say "do not resist" to make it sound like someone is resisting?
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Is it in the fricking police manual to say "do not resist" to make it sound like someone is resisting?
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Video at link
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:53 am to the808bass
This is why people hate cops.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 7:17 am to the808bass
quote:probably
Is it in the fricking police manual to say "do not resist" to make it sound like someone is resisting?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:09 am to LSU1NSEC
I didn't hear any miranda rights.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:05 am to PrivatePublic
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I didn't hear any miranda rights.
And your point is?
Here's your tip for the day. Police are under no obligation to read your Miranda rights when they arrest you. If they don't, then they can't use anything you say but the arrest is still valid. In this case, their evidence will be this video so they don't need his statements.
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Damn Tea Party, with their Goddamn Gestapo police force and their Goddamn oppressive religious beliefs. GODDAMNIT, this Tea Party movement is trampling our freedom of speech. Won't someone please think of the fricking children?
Hope you're trolling. If you're not, you should have watched the video. The guy's complaints have a very "don't tread on me" feel. If anyone in that room is a tea party member, it is the guy that got arrested and not the town officials.
As far as the charges go, an obstruction charge is legitimate. You don't have a right to disrupt government meetings. On the other hand, unless there's something not shown in the video, the resisting charge is bogus.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:54 am to JustGetItRight
maybe the man arrested is a troublemaker or maybe he had some legitimate gripes against the local gov't. If he had legitimate gripes - then it's a real shame what happened. If people are intimidated against getting involved in gov't - unfortunate things will probably happen.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:46 am to LSU1NSEC
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maybe the man arrested is a troublemaker or maybe he had some legitimate gripes against the local gov't. If he had legitimate gripes - then it's a real shame what happened. If people are intimidated against getting involved in gov't - unfortunate things will probably happen.
At this meeting, he was given a 3 minute block - which is common at council meetings that let the public speak. Many don't and have no legal obligation to do so.
He went over that time. When told his time was up, he refused to yield. When told by law enforcement that he had to stop and leave, he refused. That is the textbook definition of interfering with government operations. He is guilty of that charge.
As far as his gripes, legit or not he has a right to air his complaints. He could do it at this meeting in his given time. He could stand on the sidewalk and do it as long as he wanted. What he could not do was disrupt the meeting.
Full disclosure - I've been a small town mayor. At the end of our council meetings, I always opened the floor for public speakers that wanted to address us. I also never put a time limit on them because in theory I agree with you. In practice, some of our meetings went very long because of this policy. If we had been a larger town, it would have impossible to have such a policy due to time constraints alone. You've got to draw the line somewhere.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:33 am to JustGetItRight
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Full disclosure - I've been a small town mayor. At the end of our council meetings, I always opened the floor for public speakers that wanted to address us. I also never put a time limit on them because in theory I agree with you.
everyone in my small town has open access to talk to the mayor. He makes the rounds and stops and talks to people in their yards, at the stores, etc. He's doing a fairly good job. If he screws up, he hears about it all day long when he's out in public. Same with the police chief and cops.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:48 am to LSU1NSEC
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everyone in my small town has open access to talk to the mayor. He makes the rounds and stops and talks to people in their yards, at the stores, etc. He's doing a fairly good job. If he screws up, he hears about it all day long when he's out in public. Same with the police chief and cops.
Easily the hardest job I've ever had for this reason. I wouldn't have done it any other way, but it sure would have been easier to have levels of insulation in place.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:06 pm to the808bass
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Is it in the fricking police manual to say "do not resist" to make it sound like someone is resisting?
Maybe
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:06 pm to JustGetItRight
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Easily the hardest job I've ever had for this reason. I wouldn't have done it any other way, but it sure would have been easier to have levels of insulation in place.
It's not as bad as it sounds. The Mayor has an open door policy and he's pretty honest about what he can and can't do and people respect that.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:39 pm to LSU1NSEC
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It's not as bad as it sounds. The Mayor has an open door policy and he's pretty honest about what he can and can't do and people respect that.
When you're the mayor of a town of < 1,500 everyone is comfortable walking right up and talking to you. They don't have that same comfort in approaching say the mayor of Birmingham or New Orleans. What most don't understand is that you're people too and might be in a hurry, you may have had just had a spat with the wife, or just don't feel like talking at that time.
I sound like I hated the job. I didn't but it does wear on you. Every now and then it is nice to go to the grocery store and not get hit up two or three times about something.
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