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Aggie Basketball Attendance Records Since 2010

Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:30 pm
Last Two Years of the Turgeon Era:

2009-2010: 16 home games for a total attendance of 158,222 = 9889 average per home game (ranked #46 in the country)

2010-2011: 17 home games for a total attendance of 153,001 = 9000 (ranked #50 in the country)

The Billy Kennedy Era

2011-2012: 18 home games for a total attendance of 132,900 = 7383 (ranked #71 in the country)

2012-2013: 18 home games for a total attendance of 113,950 = 6331 (ranked #84 in the country)

2013-2014: 19 home games for a total attendance of 101,979 = 5367 (rankings currently unavailable)



How much will Hyman take attendance figures into account regarding whether BK is retained for a 4th year?

Notes:

- If members of the Corps didn't "volunteer" to show up for the South Carolina game, we wouldn't reached 100,000 for the season.

- Towards the end of the schedule, the ticket office was literally giving tickets away with various promotions but without much success
(Ex: students with a sports pass could bring a friend for free).

- Billy Kennedy has a 48-46 overall record at Texas A&M, including a 19-35 conference record.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:40 pm to
Losses to teams outside the KenPom100:

November 2004 - March 2011: 0

November 2011 - March 2014: 12 (including 7 in the 2013-2014 season)
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:54 pm to
Winning helps, but being a basketball school first gives you a solid core to work with.
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:02 pm to
While KenPom is useful tool to compare one's team among Division 1 schools, it is unclear whether Hyman pays any attention to such ratings. The attendance figures, however, are another story altogether. Hyman can choose to ignore KenPom or some other metric, but he has to account for home attendance and how it affects the school's bottom line.

CGSC, could you list the schools that we lost to that falls below the KenPom100?

I believe the 7 losses incurred this year are North Texas, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt X 2, Auburn, and Missouri State.

Off the top of my head, the other schools include Southern and Rice, but who were the other teams?
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Winning helps, but being a basketball school first gives you a solid core to work with.
Certainly. Texas A&M has not nor will ever be considered a basketball-only school. However, public universities of similar size like Ohio State and Florida have been successful in their basketball programs yet would never be considered a basketball-first school by anyone.

Texas A&M has over 50,000 students enrolled on campus. We can do better. We have done better under worse circumstances.

In 2003-2004 during Melvin Watkins' last year coaching at A&M, the Aggies went 0-18 in conference play.

The average attendance per game for that year: 6,100, which dwarfs the average attendance under BK this year.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:19 pm to
I find your profile picture frustratingly arousing
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:21 pm to
Lauren Santacroce is a keeper once she decides to settle down.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:38 pm to
In 2012-2013, you had Southern, Georgia twice, and Vanderbilt.
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:55 pm to
BK has so many bad losses on his A&M resume, it's hard to keep track.

The harder question would be to consider what was BK's "Signature Win."

A&M has exactly one win against a ranked opponent, last year against Missouri.

Winning at Rupp in '13 was nice, but Kentucky was unranked at the time and was later bounced out of the first round of the NIT by Robert Morris.

Robert Morris.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:08 pm to
Other than Pat's bizarre "we signed a contract, so we should give him the entire contractual term" argument (which makes little sense because literally no school handles coaching contracts this way... sorry Pat), can anybody think of a good reason to keep him?

Every metric screams "loser" and "fire this dud!!"
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43976 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:21 pm to
Not that it really matters; but even in Turgeon's final two seasons, I think he was still riding the post-Gillispie wave of excitement and interest. Many of the same students were there during the overlap of both regimes, and I'm sure they were hoping for a BCG-like turn-around. That's the only way to account for those higher attendance figures.

Regardless, a linear trend analysis of time series is not needed here, nor is any form of voo doo statistics:Our basketball attendance numbers are in free fall.
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7174 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:27 pm to
Before the Missouri game, I was thinking that we would finish the season in semi-respectable fashion. Then came Mo and the failure, once again, to execute down the stretch on the road. Then came Auburn, and a rather lackluster failure to execute down the stretch at home. I am aware that there have been any number of personnel problems throughout the year. The Auburn game was really really bad for BK. Barring some sort of miracle at the conference tournament, it's hard to envision the case for keeping him. I was willing to withhold judgment until the end of the season, but Auburn sealed the deal for me.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Other than Pat's bizarre "we signed a contract, so we should give him the entire contractual term" argument (which makes little sense because literally no school handles coaching contracts this way... sorry Pat)


I appreciate the kind words.

quote:

can anybody think of a good reason to keep him?


Bruce Pearl can't contact recruits until August, so keep BK until he has a full recruiting year.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Not that it really matters; but even in Turgeon's final two seasons, I think he was still riding the post-Gillispie wave of excitement and interest.


Not in the 2009-2010 season. Remember the Big Monday Kansas game where it took a herculean effort...by John Higgins...to keep Kansas out of the loss column at Reed?

quote:

Bruce Pearl can't contact recruits until August, so keep BK until he has a full recruiting year.


What about Ben Howland...or the Louisiana Tech coach...it doesn't have to be Pearl.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Slotback
Member since Jun 2012
669 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:37 pm to
CGSC: Why do you remind me of that crook Higgins? Damn I was pissed after that game.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

quote: Other than Pat's bizarre "we signed a contract, so we should give him the entire contractual term" argument (which makes little sense because literally no school handles coaching contracts this way... sorry Pat)

I appreciate the kind words.


Hey, I respect your opinion, I just think it's kinda weird and not normal business practice

quote:

Bruce Pearl can't contact recruits until August, so keep BK until he has a full recruiting year.


Somebody is going to hire Bruce Pearl in a few weeks. He ain't gonna be around next year.
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