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re: SEC Network, the thread
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:41 am to tmc94
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:41 am to tmc94
quote:not upfront, the PAC network got back loaded IIRC. The money wont start rolling in for them for another couple years
The PAC doesn't have anywhere near the demand in market that the SEC or B1G does.
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:33 pm to WestCoastAg
The Pac has 100% ownership. It's a different model for sure so things are naturally a little rough coming out of the gate. Not at all saying their networks won't work, simply pointing out the obvious - the Pac schools on average have smaller fan bases than the B1G or SEC schools.
In the new world, everyone is attempting to monetize their fanbases in new ways. But this isn't some communistic endeavor. Those with the big fanbases will always make the most. The race to the top is between the B1G and SEC imo
* Note this year's tv ratings
Oh and btw, in an a la carte model, Disney products apparently must be bought all or none. So every single person that goes that route will be paying for SECN. I really think it's positioned us better than the BTN (or PACN) by far by hitching ourselves to ESPN.
In the new world, everyone is attempting to monetize their fanbases in new ways. But this isn't some communistic endeavor. Those with the big fanbases will always make the most. The race to the top is between the B1G and SEC imo
* Note this year's tv ratings
Oh and btw, in an a la carte model, Disney products apparently must be bought all or none. So every single person that goes that route will be paying for SECN. I really think it's positioned us better than the BTN (or PACN) by far by hitching ourselves to ESPN.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:52 pm to tmc94
I know I've said it in other threads but Pac 12 Net would probably be on DTV if it wasn't 6 regional networks plus a national feed.
Almost all the football games are simulcast on the national feed so why would DTV care about a bunch of other regional sports nets that don't have anything past a few college basketball games to offer?
Almost all the football games are simulcast on the national feed so why would DTV care about a bunch of other regional sports nets that don't have anything past a few college basketball games to offer?
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:26 pm to WestCoastAg
How fast would all of bcs drop suddenlink if they didn't pick up secn?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 2:46 pm to betweenthebara
this is from a Barner on Scout LINK
Pretty important to note that this is based on 60m subscribers and we're already at ~20m. But just as important, he's also leaving out advertising and costs.
The BTN gets about $30m in advertising and generates $280m. They have a cost basis of approximately $80m. I think the SECN will have a higher cost structure (just due to higher quality production by ESPN). So if we assume $100m that leaves about $310m in profit (adding the 30m ad revenue) and split 50/50 it's about $11m per school.
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Here are some assumptions I'm making:
Cable households per state are based on 2012 TVB.org statistics. (I believe these numbers are low, but they are the best I could find this morning.)
There will ultimately be 85% carriage on all cable/satellite households. (As reference, ESPNU has 75 million households and I'm projecting the SEC Network to be at 60 million households.)
Assume the SEC and ESPN split the revenue 50/50 - and then the SEC divides the revenue 15 ways (14 for each school and one share for the SEC office.)
Pretty important to note that this is based on 60m subscribers and we're already at ~20m. But just as important, he's also leaving out advertising and costs.
The BTN gets about $30m in advertising and generates $280m. They have a cost basis of approximately $80m. I think the SECN will have a higher cost structure (just due to higher quality production by ESPN). So if we assume $100m that leaves about $310m in profit (adding the 30m ad revenue) and split 50/50 it's about $11m per school.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:43 pm to tmc94
Maybe the best article on the SEC Network yet. All but 1 of the SEC ADs were interviewed. LINK
Some interesting excerpts
Some interesting excerpts
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Hyman said his understanding is that every SEC football team will play on the SEC Network within the first several weeks of the 2014 season. SEC and ESPN officials said they're still evaluating when teams will appear, but the goal is to have a broad network.
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Slive said the content committee focuses on how the network is marketed nationally while attempting to balance minimize lost class time for athletes. The network wants to provide live sporting events every night.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:35 am to tmc94
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:18 pm to tmc94
Brent Musberger - 
Jesse Palmer -
Jesse Palmer -
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:01 pm to Dr RC
Reverse those faces for me.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:02 pm to tmc94
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Maybe the best article on the SEC Network yet. All but 1 of the SEC ADs were interviewed.
That was a great link, thank you very much.
One thing I am really glad to see is how conservative the SEC is being about everything. No projections, no $X million a year, no bluster. Just honesty and low expectations early on. I think that plan is a winner.
I think this is yet another way that Aggies can thank the heavens for the LHN, because you can tell that ESPN is also being very conservative about hype before they get distribution. It is very obvious where they learned that lesson.
Personally I think its going to be huge, like 100 million subscribers in five years and much bigger than what ESPN U is today. In fact I think in ten years the SEC Network will be the mouse's third most distributed sports channel. But I dream of crossing that $15 million a year line and finally burning my last green shaggy sock.
Overall I am glad the people running the show are less gung ho than me, it bodes well for the future.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:10 pm to tmc94
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The (SEC) network wants to provide live sporting events every night.
It seems like there is a college football game on just about every night in the fall, except Sunday. Does this mean there will be an SEC football game played every night?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:14 pm to PikeBishop
No, not at all. In fact I've heard mention that the SEC has no plans for more than 2-3 Thurs night games a year (opening weekend and tday). Tailgating is way too big of a deal in the SEC for anything else. He is talking about other sports.
For instance
Early Fall Semester
Mon, Wed, Sun - Soccer
Tue, Thu, Fri - Volleyball
Sat - Football
Winter
All week - men's and women's hoops
Spring
Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun, Tue - baseball
Mon, Wed - Softball
For instance
Early Fall Semester
Mon, Wed, Sun - Soccer
Tue, Thu, Fri - Volleyball
Sat - Football
Winter
All week - men's and women's hoops
Spring
Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun, Tue - baseball
Mon, Wed - Softball
Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:25 pm to tmc94
I'm perfectly fine with watching the other sports 
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:49 am to Jobu93
speaking of other sports, a couple of hoops announcements this morning
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@SEC
The debut of SEC men’s college basketball games on the @SECNetwork has been set for Friday, Nov. 14. #SEC
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@SEC
Future #SEC Men's Basketball Tournament Early Rounds To Air On @SECNetwork. Release: LINK …
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:40 pm to tmc94
And now the news that CSS is shuttering. One reason officially stated was loss of SEC content that will now go to the SEC Network.
LINK
LINK
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Comcast and Charter subscribers get the channel here locally. CSS reaches 5.5 million homes in 12 states.
Presumably, the SEC Network will take its place on those networks though nothing has been confirmed.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:48 pm to tmc94
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Charter subscribers get the channel here locally. CSS reaches 5.5 million homes in 12 states.
Presumably, the SEC Network will take its place on those networks
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:02 am to TbirdSpur2010
More good info from this NOLA article
RE: Men's hoops
Some original programming
And...things I have zero interest in watching for $1000, Alex
RE: Men's hoops
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"The tournament will be exclusively on our network," Connolly said. "We're also going to open our SEC basketball league telecasts next year with Florida playing Kentucky. In addition, every team will be on at least eight times."
Some original programming
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"We're going to come out of the gate swinging in football," promised Connolly. "We're going to have four exclusive 'SEC Storied' films in August and September.
And...things I have zero interest in watching for $1000, Alex
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Both have had various roles in the network's college football coverage, including co-hosting a show called "Pollack and Palmer."
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:50 pm to tmc94
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We will broadcast all of our home games (baseball) in 2015 for the SECN. Too early to tell how many will be on the linear channel (cable/satellite) vs digital channel. All will be in HD and of ESPN quality and graphics. - Jason Cook
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